SBOMs, HBOMs, and Supply Chain Visibility - BTS #50
Below the Surface (Audio) - The Supply Chain Security Podcast
Release Date: 05/15/2025
Exploring AI in Firmware Analysis - BTS #65
Below the Surface (Audio) - The Supply Chain Security Podcast
Summary In this episode, special guest Matt Brown joins us to discuss the integration of AI in firmware analysis, exploring its benefits and challenges. We delve into the transition from traditional methods to AI-driven approaches, emphasizing the importance of prompt specificity for effective vulnerability discovery. The conversation also covers the role of open-source components, the need for guardrails in AI use, and the implications of AI-generated reports in cybersecurity. Additionally, they touch on man-in-the-middle techniques and the future of AI in firmware development, highlighting...
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Patching, Evil AI, Supply Chain Breaches - BTS #64
Below the Surface (Audio) - The Supply Chain Security Podcast
Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss various cybersecurity topics, including recent vulnerabilities in Fortinet products, the implications of supply chain breaches, the evolving role of AI in cybersecurity, and updates to the OWASP Top 10 list. They emphasize the importance of firmware security and the need for better visibility and standards in the industry. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by defenders in a rapidly changing threat landscape and the necessity for proactive measures to secure systems. Takeaways Fortinet vulnerabilities are critical and require immediate...
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F5 Breach, Linux Malware, and Hacking Banks - BTS #63
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Summary In this episode of Below the Surface, Paul Asadoorian and Chase Snyder delve into various cybersecurity topics, including the use of Raspberry Pi in cyber attacks, the implications of the F5 breach, and the emergence of Polar Edge malware targeting QNAP devices. They also discuss the innovative Two-Face Rust binary technique, the critical nature of authentication bypass vulnerabilities, and the evolving landscape of air-gapped systems. The conversation highlights the increasing risk posed by old vulnerabilities and the need for improved security measures in the face of advancing...
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Unpacking the F5 Breach, Framework UEFI Shells - BTS #62
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In this episode, the hosts discuss the recent F5 breach, exploring the implications of the attack, the tactics used by threat actors, and the importance of vulnerability disclosure. They delve into the complexities of securing network edge devices, the challenges posed by Linux security, and the need for standardization in security practices. The conversation also touches on the future of firmware security and the necessity for proactive measures in incident response. We also close out the show taking about the recent Framework UEFI shell vulnerability. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to F5...
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Red November, Cisco Vulnerabilities, and Supply Chain Security - BTS #61
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In this episode of Below the Surface, the hosts discuss various cybersecurity topics, including the Red November campaign targeting network edge devices, the implications of the Cisco SNMP vulnerability, and the recent vulnerabilities associated with Cisco ASA devices. They also delve into the hybrid Petya ransomware and its connection to supply chain security, emphasizing the need for better visibility and security measures in network devices. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Overview of Cybersecurity Trends 02:09 Red November Campaign: Targeting Network Edge Devices 11:06 The Shift in Attack...
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HybridPetya and UEFI Threats - BTS #60
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In this episode of Below the Surface, the hosts discuss various cybersecurity topics, including the evolution of malware with a focus on Hybrid Petya, the implications of UEFI vulnerabilities, and the security risks associated with Windows 10's end of life. They also explore the vulnerabilities of Cisco ASA devices, the rise of supply chain attacks exemplified by NPM worms, and the persistent threat of Row Hammer attacks on DDR5 technology. The conversation highlights the significance of visibility in cybersecurity and the necessity for enhanced security practices to counter evolving threats....
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Exploit Marketplaces - BTS #59
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In this episode of Below the Surface, host Paul Asadoorian speaks with Evan Dornbush, CEO of Desired Effect, about the evolving landscape of exploit marketplaces and vulnerability research. They discuss the challenges researchers face in monetizing their findings, the ethical implications of selling exploits, and the importance of timely intelligence for defenders. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in vulnerability research, the dynamics between buyers and sellers in the marketplace, and the impact of end-of-life devices on cybersecurity. Overall, the episode provides valuable...
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UEFI Vulnerabilities and Hardware Risks - BTS #58
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In this episode, the hosts discuss various cybersecurity topics, focusing on hardware vulnerabilities, UEFI attack vectors, and the implications of new regulations on device security. They explore the evolution of Mirai variants targeting IoT devices and the challenges of securing firmware. The conversation highlights the need for improved security measures and the complexities of managing vulnerabilities in a rapidly changing technological landscape. 00:00 Introduction and Technical Challenges 02:37 Exploring UEFI Settings and Hardware Vulnerabilities 10:14 The Risks of UEFI Control...
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Interview with Brian Mullen from AMI - BTS #57
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In this episode of Below the Surface, host Paul Asadoorian is joined by Brian Mullen, head of SSDLC at AMI, to discuss the complexities of supply chain and firmware security. They explore the challenges of maintaining security in a complicated supply chain, the importance of proactive and reactive security measures, and the implications of end-of-life software. The conversation also touches on the gaming industry's push for secure boot, recent vulnerabilities discovered in firmware, and the role of BMCs in security. Brian shares insights into AMI's approach to vulnerability management and the...
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BTS #56 - Vulnerabilities & Backdoors In IT Infrastructure
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In this episode, the hosts discuss various cybersecurity topics, focusing on Nvidia vulnerabilities, the implications of backdoors in technology, and the importance of secure boot and certificate management. They also delve into SonicWall's security challenges and the ongoing debate of building versus buying security solutions, particularly in the context of AI infrastructure and cloud services. Articles and topics for this week: - Secure Boot and certificates - - - Researcher’s previous paper on SMM and malware: He presented at Blackhat...
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In this episode, Paul Asadoorian and Joshua Marpet delve into the complexities of compliance, inventory management, and the emerging concepts of SBOMs, HBOMs, and FBOMs (no, not that FBOM). They discuss the importance of understanding the components and origins of hardware and software, the challenges of managing technology lifecycles, and the need for clear standards and regulations in the tech industry. The conversation emphasizes the critical role of asset inventories in maintaining security and compliance in an ever-evolving technological landscape. In this conversation, Joshua Marpet and Paul Asadoorian delve into the complexities of hardware security, the cultural shifts needed in security practices, and the importance of transparency in software and firmware management. They discuss the challenges posed by hardware backdoors, the necessity of Software Bill of Materials (SBOMs), and the hidden risks associated with firmware updates. The dialogue emphasizes the need for a cultural change in how organizations approach security and compliance, advocating for continuous management and transparency to inspire confidence in security practices.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Technical Challenges
02:02 Exploring Compliance and Frameworks
05:06 Understanding S-bombs, H-bombs, and F-bombs
10:10 The Importance of Inventory and Asset Management
15:01 Navigating Hardware and Software Lifecycle
19:58 Standards and Regulations in Technology
23:56 The Manchurian Microchip and Hardware Backdoors
27:44 Cultural Change in Security Practices
30:47 The Importance of Transparency and SBOMs
36:39 Challenges in Compliance and Risk Management
42:42 The Hidden Risks of Firmware and Hardware Updates