Ben Rosario Show
Welcome to the final episode of the Ben Rosario show for season three. Ben is the coach of the professional Northern Arizona Elite team in Flagstaff and Dean Ouellette is a high school coach in Chandler Arizona. Today they welcome Coach Tom Rothenberger of Jesuit high school in Oregon. Tom has coached Jesuit for over 30 years with 26 state titles.
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When it comes to qualifying for NXN, Southlake Carrol ranks as the school with the second most combined team appearances, only behind FM. We talk to Justin Leonard about his success
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Dan Iverson - Naperville North girls head coach. The girl's team won the 2018 Nike Midwest Championship and were runners-up from the 2017 NXN.
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Today Ben welcomes Coach Dave Van Sickle of Xavier high school in Phoenix. Dave has a really interesting history never being much of a distance runner himself as a youth. Dave had to learn how to coach distance runners and over the last 30 years has become one of the best coaches in Arizona winning several state titles and two trips to NXN. Ben and Dave discuss some of his major influences and how his coaching and training has evolved.
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Dave Frank is the very successful boys cross country coach at Central Catholic. He arrived in 2000 with Alberto Salazar and took over the program in 2005. Since he took over, his boys have been first or second every year at the State meet.
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Sal Gonzales is the successful New Mexico cross country and track coach of Rio Rancho High School. We talk to him about his training and how he had to change his coaching when he went to a new school.
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Introduction to Coach Timo Mostert Great up in Illinois and ran at BYU 1998 moved to American Fork 8 State Championships over last 9 years 8 NXN trips with an average place 5th and lowest 8th, 2nd place 3 times in the last six years School demographics 2400 students in 3 grades In our school district 3 other schools who have made it to Nike Cross Team averages 30 boys, 40 this year is the largest ever When did you decide you wanted to coach? Very early had great coaches After the freshman year in college got into education with hopes of being a coach What do you want to talk...
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Colin Altevogt, the boys XC coach at Carmel High in Indiana. Colin has been coaching in Indiana for the past 11 years, the last six years as a cross country coach at Carmel. The team has captured four state championships and two state runner-up titles with two qualifications for Nike Cross Nationals (2014 and 2017), including a tenth-place finish in 2017.
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We talk to Jonathon Dably of Mountain Vista High School about his team's success at NXN and about what is next? How does he make the transition into winter running and then how do things change going into spring track?
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John O’Malley is the longtime coach of Sandburg High School where he has sent two teams and a few individuals to the NXN Championship race. John took over the program in 2003 and we talk about some of the changes and challenges he has gone through. John coaches more than 50 boys, we talk about the staff he uses to manage that team size and how Good To Great has helped him build the coaching staff. Culture is a big piece of the success of Sandburg High School. John talks in detail about building the culture and what that means? John talks about recruiting and growing the team? Before we get...
info_outlineCoach you won 6 state titles in a row in Arizona with the Xavier girls xc team then the next two years, you won back to back titles at Desert Vista. Last year you just missed your 9th state title in a row, but you are back on top this year ranked 3rd by Flotrack. How does the team look this year?
With the girls used to winning state titles and falling a little short last year, what did you need to do differently this year to get them ready?
How do you balance the science that you know with teaching the kids but not overwhelming them?
What does your HIIT training look like?
How often are you doing HIIT’s and how many do you do? 6x150 with full recovery 3x in a 22-weektraining cycle. After a moderate intensity or recovery distance run. One key is full recovery. You need full recovery so you can recruit more muscle fiber.
As soon as any coach becomes successful the peanut gallery starts talking about how the team is overtraining, recruiting or any other excuse for a teams success. In a few selected cases that may be true, but Ive talked to you enough about training to know that is not the case with you, can you talk about the type of volume your athletes are doing?
You have had a lot of runners who went on and had a lot of success at the next level and as professionals. How rewarding is it to see them go on and have success?
We are coming toward the end of the season where you just had City, getting ready for sectionals, then state and then two weeks later Nike Cross Regionals. How do you manage peaking and maintaining it for that long?
If you have a 20-week training cycle, how do you space out your workouts and how varied are your workouts over those 20 weeks? 2-week cycle will try to get in a tempo run, a progression run, two long runs and 2 repetition sessions. If we get in five, that is fine. At most six. in the Phoenix summer it may be 2-4.
What pace is your repetition workouts at? 7+7=7 workout, 7x800 plus 7x200 is 7,000m of work. Those 800s will be cut down pacing and the average may be 2:43 for a varsity girl. And 200s may be 34-35.5. Somewhere around goal race pace average on the 800s and faster on the 200s. 5600m of the 7k will be mostly aerobic.
On the 800s will cut down pace and cut down race so may start with 3:00 and end up 1:45-2:00 rest.
Compare your reasoning to what Tinman does with the CV pacing. - Early in the summer we spend a lot of time close to that CV range, the faster stuff will be later and we get there with the cutdown start 2:52 and end 2:35
Does this workout play into your race strategy of negative splits and how does a race strategy change for someone who is a mid-pack runner who’s strategy may not change based on who is leading the race? - Last mile, best mile, fastest mile.
How has it worked over the years when you get to a big race where position becomes so important and you may need to be more aggressive?
How big is your team?
Can you talk to us about the structure of your program and how you deal with those many athletes?
Talking to the coaches over the last few weeks what we notice is the coaches and the programs that work hard and have high goals and love to win and do hard workouts are the ones that end up with big teams, not the ones who relax and always only focus on fun. The kids seem to want to work hard, what are your thoughts?
You mentioned warm up routines. Most teams have a set of drills that they do, you have multiple sets, why do you change it up so much?
No one I know reads as many research studies as you do. You do it for your career as well as for your coaching. what have you learned in the last 6-12 months. that is new you have incorporated?
We all learn from each other, so talk about some of your influences in the coaching world.