Yesteryear with Caro Claire Burke | Trad Wives, Secret Lives & Twist Ending (Spoilers)
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This week, Kate sits down with Caro Claire Burke, author of the hit debut novel Yesteryear, the trad wife time travel thriller that triggered a publishing bidding war, has already been optioned by Anne Hathaway, and is Good Morning America's April book club pick. They discuss a variety of topics within the book (with spoilers, FYI), including how you write an unreliable narrator whose worldview fundamentally opposes your own, the layers of performance that start with God and end with the algorithm, why Natalie is deserving of sympathy as both a victim and a bad person, the Ballerina Farm and...
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The Taylor Frankie Paul of It All
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This week, Kate is breaking her hiatus for a special report recorded before Thursday's news that ABC was scrapping TFP's season of The Bachelorette. Ultimately, she decided this episode was still a relevant conversation to have, given that she and her guest (Sam Dalton, LCSW @sam.the.therapistt) talked through the systems and cycles that made this week's fallout unsurprising long before the video leaked. Together, they unpack the rose colored glass ceiling of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, where women perform rebellion without ever actually leaving the structures that constrain them. They...
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Taylor Swift Lyrics that Scratch Your Brain (Reprise)
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This week, Kate attempts to revive (but then mostly records a new version of) a fan-favorite Patreon from 2021 about the way Taylor Swift pronounces words. We're talking plosives, brain-scratching vowels, and why certain words sung a certain way make you want to listen again, but with updated takes from Midnights to TTPD to Showgirl. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial ! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Caraway’s cookware set is a favorite for a reason, it can save you up to $230 versus buying the items individually. Plus, if you...
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Mama's Back at the Lake (Director's Cut feat. Caroline Moss)
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This week, Kate and Caroline Moss revisit the beloved Mama Slay at the Lake episode with a director's cut of our delirious 6 AM conversation about irreverent merch, warm beans, Facebook walls, Maxine culture, and Steve Madden platform loafers, followed by a brand new conversation where we get into pun drift, Disney adults in matching shirts, the grievance merch pipeline, Kate's Hamilton/American Girl mashup, and why lake town signs are the truest window into the suppressed psyche of second home motherhood. JFK Jr. and CBK content will be up later today on Patreon! Enjoy. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS...
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Mother, Son, and the Aioli Spirit (Director's Cut)
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This week, Kate revisits an infamous episode from March 2020 about dips, sauces, and dipping sauces. Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial ! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Right now, Betterwild is offering our listeners up to 40% off your order at . That’s for up to 40% off your order. Head to and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for up to 20% off. And if you get a Post-Purchase Survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Celebrate everyday love with comfort that makes the little moments count. For a...
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Bath and Body Jerks, Wash Your Face (Director's Cut)
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The culture that made the Beths say the Beth culture was for them. Mashup ep with 40+ min of new audio. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial ! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Whether it’s a weekend away, a big night out, or just a much-needed wardrobe refresh – your dream wardrobe is just one click away. Head to , shop my edit, and take 15% off your first order with code BETHEREINFIVE. Offer ends February 2nd, so happy shopping! Right now, Baked by Melissa is offering our listeners 20% off your...
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Petty Little Liars (feat. Kelly) (From the Vault)
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This week, Kate has an announcement that she shares at the beginning of the episode that will then explain the rest of the episode and why its title may sound familiar. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial ! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Right now, Betterwild is offering our listeners up to 40% off your order at . That’s for up to 40% off your order. Start the New Year off right and give your home the luxury it deserves, and make home the best part of life. Head to and use my code BETHEREINFIVE...
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Red Delicious
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This week, Kate reflects on 2025 for feeling depleting yet not defining, exhausting and sometimes forgettable; a year of endless micro-trends, political chaos, and moment sludge that somehow left very little to hold onto. Fun! She dives into “viral death cycle” and why nothing sticks anymore, explores the three stages of aging out of culture, explores why many of us feel our brains are broken, and processes the weird grief of realizing you're no longer "becoming" someone but existing deep in a routine, all while she grapples with her uncool taste in apples. TLDR: a contemplative, honest,...
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Eras Tour Docuseries (Eps 1 and 2 feat. Sarah from Taylor Swift Style)
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This week, Kate welcomes back Sarah Chapelle (Taylor Swift Style) to discuss the first two episodes of Disney+'s The End of an Era docuseries. They dissect the emotional weight of episodes 1 and 2; from the devastating Vienna terror plot and Southport attack to Taylor's leadership style, bonus day generosity, and the physical toll of performing and beyond. Kate and Sarah analyze what the docuseries reveals about Taylor's collaborative process with her team, they predict future episodes (Miami costumes? Travis spotlight?), debate burning questions (Why no debut representation? Justice for...
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Shelf Help
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This week, Kate investigates Elf on the Shelf: cute Christmas tradition or late-capitalist nightmare? After a simple Instagram question turned into hundreds of responses about surveillance capitalism, invisible labor, and performative parenting, she started to unpack what this manufactured tradition reveals about millennial parenting, Christmas magic, and the mental load of the holidays. Can it just be holly-jolly casual for those of us who like light whimsy labor, or does it have to match its corresponding oppressive, mischievous Christmas elf canon? Plus, the suspicious origin story of...
info_outlineThis week, Kate listened to a two-hour football podcast and lives to tell the tale. In this podcast episode about a podcast episode, Kate obsesses over a 30-something woman and her boyfriend existing and being normal, which surprisingly turned out to be the best entertainment of all. She recaps Taylor Swift's unprecedented appearance on New Heights, where we learned about TS12: The Life of a Showgirl, coming October 3rd. She breaks down her personal interview highlights, from SAT vocab words to otters to human exclamation marks and having fun. She was particularly struck by the Sourdough (10-minute version) airtime that was devoted exclusively to bread puns. She also talks through what we know so far about TS12 and gets excited to make space for more Blank Space pop on this album, exclusively produced by Max Martin and Shellback. Enjoy!
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