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Beyond the pay gap figure with Michelle Gyimah
Release Date: 01/21/2024
Beyond the pay gap figure with Michelle Gyimah
Introduction: In this case study episode, Michelle shares how one organisation successfully reduced its pay gap by nearly 15% over three years. The organisation implemented a sponsorship program where senior leaders actively sponsored high-potential women, providing them with visibility, mentorship, and opportunities for advancement. The company revised its parental leave policies to offer equal opportunities to both parents, which resulted in a more balanced division of responsibilities and reduced biases against women in career advancement. By maintaining transparency in...
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Introduction: This week our host Michelle Gyimah explores what true success looks like when it comes to closing the pay gap. Success is not just about meeting legal requirements for reporting pay gaps. It's about creating a culture where equality is ingrained in every organisational process, from recruitment to promotion. Success in pay gap reduction should be measured by long-term impacts such as employee retention, satisfaction, and the growth of diverse talent in leadership roles. Organisations need to focus on more than just reducing the numbers; they should aim for...
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Introduction: In this episode, host Michelle Gyimah discusses common misconceptions about pay gaps and the metrics that organisations often chase without achieving real impact. Many organisations focus on metrics like the average pay gap without digging deeper into the underlying causes. Michelle emphasises that understanding the root causes—such as gender bias in promotions or unequal access to high-paying roles—is key to making real progress. Organisations should prioritise actionable steps, such as conducting regular salary audits, providing bias training for leadership,...
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Welcome to the Beyond the Pay Gap Figure Podcast. In this episode, our guest is Susan Grayson, an expert in creating inclusive workplaces, especially for women experiencing menopause. Susan discusses the challenges women face in the workplace due to menopause and shares insights into how organisations can become more inclusive. Susan discusses how menopause is often overlooked as a factor affecting women’s career progression. Women experiencing severe symptoms may struggle with attendance, performance, and confidence, leading to potential career setbacks. Addressing these issues through...
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Introduction: Welcome to the Beyond the Pay Gap Podcast. In this episode, we are pleased to have Aurélien Joly, the Communication Manager for the Equal Salary Foundation. Aurélien discusses the foundation’s work in certifying companies for equal pay and opportunities, and shares insights into the certification process and its benefits. The certification involves a detailed salary analysis, considering factors such as education, age, gender, and job functions, to ensure fair pay practices. Companies undergo a rigorous audit process and must meet specific criteria to achieve...
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Introduction: In this episode of "Beyond The Pay Gap Figure," we welcome Sharna Matson Knight from Cadent Gas Limited. Sharna shares her experiences and insights as the Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion (EDI) Manager, discussing Cadent's gender pay gap, the initiatives they have implemented, and the journey towards creating an inclusive workplace. Explaining how Cadent's gender pay gap has fluctuated due to organizational changes and stresses the importance of transparency and providing a narrative to drive change. Employee communities and networks play a significant role in driving change and...
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Exploring Gender Equity in the Energy Sector Introduction: Welcome to another episode of the Beyond the Pay Gap Figure Podcast. Today, host Michelle Gyimah interviews Sarah Clark, the Decarbonisation Delivery Manager for Europe, Middle East & Africa and co-chair of the AXIS Network, a gender equity group supporting the energy transition in the UK. Throughout her career, Sarah has held a variety of process engineering and project management positions in the UK and Poland, which includes design, offshore and site-based roles, as well as corporate consulting positions within O&G and...
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Introduction: Welcome back to this episode of "Beyond The Pay Gap Figure." This week, we discuss the most common mistakes organisations make with their pay gap plans and why they think these plans are not working. I will guide you through these common pitfalls and present a framework that I use with my clients to overcome these challenges effectively. Key Discussion Points: Despite their efforts, many organisations find that their actions are not yielding the desired changes, especially when the focus is solely on reducing the pay gap figure. One major reason for this is that the pay...
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In this episode of "Beyond the Pay Gap Figure," I explore the subject of addressing pay gaps internally i.e. without external consultancy or support. Contrary to expectations, I emphasise the viability and importance of organisations undertaking this task themselves. However, I do explain how to go about this important work competently. If you want to manage your pay gap plan internally, this episode will give you insights into some crucial considerations for your organisation. Here are just some of the points to consider: It’s important to have a good foundation and skill set already...
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In today’s episode we delve beyond the mere existence of a pay gap plan and explore how to maximise its effectiveness. There is a misconception that having a pay gaps plan is synonymous with progress, however, the real work lies in implementation and understanding what works and what doesn't. Or that running a training session for line managers or your HR department will be the silver bullet. But, training alone doesn’t guarantee engagement or enthusiasm for the plan either. Understanding that it’s going to require real change is where things can get tricky. So in this episode, I will go...
info_outlineThis week we're talking about being ‘cancelled’ due to your pay gap figure and how you can avoid this, even when your pay gap figures don’t look great'.
This episode covers:
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(01:25 - 02:16) Understanding the media's portrayal of boycotts
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(04:57 - 05:27) Boycotting companies for misaligned values
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(09:03 - 10:28) Proving commitment to closing gender pay gap
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(12:10 - 14:13) Managing gender pay gap concerns
‘Own your pay gap narrative’ webinar
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Best podcast quotes
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“55% of respondents would also still apply to a workplace with a poor gender pay gap if they could prove a commitment to closing that gender pay gap, and I think that's you know it's an important thing to remember. So if you're in a position where your pay gap data doesn't look great, all is not lost, but you have to be in a position where you can prove what your commitment looks like to actually closing it. “
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“You can't stop being cancelled. What you can do is prepare your internal and external comms to handle any criticism that may come your way due to your figures. But you can only do that if you prepare.”
Other Episodes with Michelle Gyimah You’ll Enjoy:
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Addressing the gender pay gap, what can leaders do today? - Still Loading podcast, episode 21
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How employers can proactively address the gender pay gap - The Employment law and HR podcast, episode 219
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How to Become a Competent DEI Practitioner: Michelle Gyimah - Confessions of a DEO pro - episode 92
Question
What are your thoughts on the gender pay gap and cancel culture? Is this something that concerns your organisation?