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B&H Podcast: Authentic Photographic Documentation vs AI Generated Images

B&H Photography Podcast

Release Date: 09/26/2024

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In today’s podcast, we chat with Boris Eldagsen, visual artist and AI pioneer, and Miles Astray, documentary photographer, on a plethora of issues surrounding AI-generated content. Boris and Miles share a ton of insight into the nature of AI-generated images, from the implications of it becoming more prevalent, the possibility and dangers of the spread of misinformation all the way to the need to rethink how we engage with social media.

These are just a few of the points raised in our discussion with them. If you haven’t already listened, This episode is part of a wider series tracing the effects of AI on today’s creative community.
Guests: Boris Eldagsen & Miles Astray
Top shot: TOP_SHOT_Eldagsen_Astray_bhpodcast
Photo caption: AI Generated Image “The Electrician” vs Authentic Photograph “Flamingone”
Photo credit: Collaged diptych: © Boris Eldagsen / © Miles Astray

Episode Timeline:

3:40: Boris shares his thoughts on the difference in reception between his and Miles’ respective contest entries.

6:34: Discussing the blurry boundaries between editing photographs and generated images.

15:18: Miles shares some of his motivations behind his photo, “F L A M I N G O N E”.

20:12: As AI images become more prevalent what happens when we’re flooded with content with questionable basis in reality.

27:24: The pitfalls of generated images and living in a “post-truth” era. 

29:37: Episode Break

30:52: The surprising, sometimes idiosyncratic nature of what AI models generate when entering prompts.

42:33: What the lack of guardrails and censorship with AI-generated content means for creativity.

47:55: Discussing the possible dangers of AI-content to the documentary-photography process. 

53:07: The opposing nature of social media as a news source and a business.

59:34: The prevalence of fact checking on social media sites.

1:06:53: On the lack of a perfect solution to the problem with manipulated images and the spread of disinformation.


Guest Bios: 
Boris Eldagsen is an acclaimed media artist, photographer, and AI pioneer based in Berlin. His work in photomedia explores the limits of what can be depicted. Using a combination of street photography, staged works, and, most recently, both still and video AI image-making tools, he deals intensively with the subconscious, which inspires him to create new worlds of images.  

Boris has taught creativity, concept development, and photographic art in both Germany and Australia since 2004. Additionally, he is a member of Deutsche Fotografische Akademie, and is responsible for their online activities.

Miles Astray is a multidisciplinary artist who combines writing and photography into art activism. He was inspired by a slow and immersive journey around the world that started in 2012, when he set out to work with grassroots nonprofits for a year. 

Little did he know this would be the first step of a new chapter of a reinvented life, living and working with local communities in Latin America, Asia and Africa. When he returned home for the first time in 2018, he found home was no longer a place to settle, it was just another place to stop along the path of a greater journey. And, thus he’s still out there, not so much to find answers, but to keep asking questions.

Stay Connected:
Boris Eldagsen Web site: https://www.eldagsen.com/
Boris Eldagsen Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boriseldagsen 
Boris Eldagsen Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/boriseldagsen
Boris Eldagsen YouTube: www.youtube.com/@boriseldagsen
Boris Eldagsen Prompt Whispering Workshops: https://www.promptwhispering.ai/workshops/
Miles Astray Web site: https://www.milesastray.com/
Miles Astray Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/milesastray/
Miles Astray Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MilesAstray/
Miles Astray Twitter: https://twitter.com/milesastray
Boris Eldagsen Podcast Episode: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/podcasts/photography/fake-memories-promptography-and-generative-ai-with-boris-eldagsen
Stephen Shankland Podcast Episode: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/podcasts/photography/photography-in-the-age-of-ai-with-stephen-shankland
Fred Ritchin Podcast Episode: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/podcasts/photography/photography-in-the-age-of-synthetic-imaging-with-fred-ritchin