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The Fourth Turning Panel: Prepare Now with American Hodl, Lawrence Lepard, Professor David B. Collum, and Brandon Quittem

The Bitcoin Matrix

Release Date: 05/02/2025

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The Bitcoin Matrix

In this episode, I chat with Samson Mow, CEO of Jan3, longtime Bitcoiner, and a key voice in nation-state Bitcoin adoption, about the heated Core vs. KNOTS debate. If you want a clear, no-BS walk through the current discourse, plus practical takeaways for node runners, this episode is for you. ––– Support My Work ––– Paypal: https://www.paypal.biz/BitcoinMatrix Strike/Bitcoin: [email protected] Cash App: https://cash.app/$BitcoinMatrix Venmo: https://venmo.com/u/bitcoinmatrix PO Box: The Bitcoin Matrix, P.O. Box 18056, Sarasota, FL 34231   ––– Offers &...

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In this episode, I chat with Trace Mayer, early Bitcoin investor and the mind behind the Seven Network Effects, about monetary sovereignty and the ideas that shaped Bitcoin culture. We dive into his rabbit-hole journey from gold to Bitcoin, debates from the block size wars, why “proof of keys” still matters, and how time preference and family tie into sound money. If you want a masterclass in first-principles Bitcoin thinking with historical and philosophical depth, this episode is for you. Support My Work Paypal: https://www.paypal.biz/BitcoinMatrix Strike/Bitcoin:...

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In this episode, I chat with Jesse Myers, aka “Croesus” on X, a Bitcoin strategy advisor and former co-founder of OnRamp Bitcoin. With an MBA from Stanford and experience at Bain & Company, Jesse is now leading Bitcoin strategy at SmarterWeb and advising UTXO Management. We dive deep into the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies—how they’re reshaping capital markets, unlocking trapped fiat, and potentially becoming the most valuable companies in the world. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at...

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In this episode, I chat with Scott Dedels, co-CEO of Block Reward, host of the Block Reward Podcast, and author of The Dao of Bitcoin: Towards a Cosmology of Energy Money. Together, we dive deep into the nature of time, monetary entropy, and Bitcoin’s role in reshaping our collective experience. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric Get up to $100 in Bitcoin on River at river.com/matrix The best Team Bitcoin merch is at HodlersOfficial.com. Use the code Matrix for a discount on your...

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In this episode, I chat with Stephan Livera, Bitcoin educator, host of the Stephan Livera Podcast, and advisor at Bold Bitcoin. We explore his journey of escaping the lockdowns in Australia to build a new life in Dubai, and how his libertarian values and understanding of Bitcoin economics shaped that decision. Stephan also shares his thoughts on cycles, proof of reserves, the role of stablecoins, and the long-term outlook for hyperbitcoinization. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric Get...

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In this episode, I chat with Mandrik, a legendary Bitcoin OG who’s been around since 2011. He shares deep honest reflections on proof of work, health and hardship.   We talk about what it was like working customer support during Mt. Gox, the emotional impact of long bear markets, and why kindness, consistency, and situational awareness matter.   ––– Offers & Discounts –––   Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric   Get up to $100 in Bitcoin on River at river.com/matrix   The best Team...

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In this episode, I chat with Jesse Myers, a Bitcoin strategy advisor and the author of the essay Once-in-a-Species. He shares deep excitement for Bitcoin treasury companies and how they might be the gateway for TradFi capital to enter Bitcoin at scale. We also dive deep into the evolutionary roots of money and how the innate human drive for scarcity laid the groundwork for the concept of money, civilization itself, and ultimately Bitcoin as the perfection of scarcity. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at...

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In this episode of the Bitcoin Matrix Podcast, I chat with Knut Svanholm, a former seafarer turned philosopher and the mind behind the “Bitcoin Infinity” meme. We explore the philosophy of freedom, how Bitcoin changes human interactions, and what it truly means to live without fear in an age of paper Bitcoin and clown world distractions. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric  Get up to $100 in Bitcoin on River at The best Team Bitcoin merch is at HodlersOfficial.com. Use the code...

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In this episode, I chat with the most interesting Bitcoiner out there, George Bodine. He opens up about his unshakable Bitcoin conviction, the painful distance it’s caused with his son, and his deep desire to leave behind generational wealth and wisdom. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric  Get up to $100 in Bitcoin on River at The best Team Bitcoin merch is at HodlersOfficial.com. Use the code Matrix for a discount on your order. Become a sponsor of the show: ––– Get To...

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In this episode, I chat with Pablo from Panties for Bitcoin, a family-run business that designs high-quality undergarments. He shares the economic realities of Argentina, the dangers of hyperinflation, and the passion behind creating a slow-fashion Bitcoin brand. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric Get up to $100 in Bitcoin on River at river.com/Matrix The best Team Bitcoin merch is at HodlersOfficial.com. Use the code Matrix for a discount on your order. Become a sponsor of the show:...

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In this episode , I chat with Brandon Quittem, Lawrence Lepard, Dave Collum, and American HODL in an all-star fourth turning roundtable. We dive deep into generational cycles, societal shifts, economic collapses, and what the peak of this fourth turning might look like.

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––– Chapters –––

02:11 - Fourth Turning Basics

04:50 - Reaction vs Trigger

06:12 - Start of the Current Fourth Turning

09:17 - Past Fourth Turnings: Civil War, Witches, More

10:52 - Peak Predictions: Collapse or Revolution?

12:56 - Monetary Breakdown & Inflationary Depression

14:51 - Controlled Demolition of the Economy

20:56 - Nuclear Risks and Cold War 2.0

24:51 - Mass Mobilization Catalysts

28:51 - Global Trade Divorce: U.S. vs China

32:08 - Reviving U.S. Manufacturing

35:14 - Dollar Weaponization & Trust Collapse

36:06 - Wealth Transfer: Fiat to Bitcoin

39:00 - Bitcoin as an Elite Revolution

42:51 - Fort Knox: Missing Gold?

44:51 - Bretton Woods 2.0 & Bitcoin Standard

54:51 - Bitcoin in a Post-Fiat World

01:00:51 - Energy, AI, and Decentralization

01:12:51 - BRICS and Global Power Shifts

01:20:51 - Innovation Amidst Collapse

01:24:51 - Bitcoin vs The State

01:30:51 - Preparing for Sovereignty

01:36:51 - Final Fourth Turning Reflections

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