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#157 - Becoming an Embodied Anti-Racist for Collective Trauma Healing with Francesca Marguerite Maximé

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

Release Date: 09/20/2020

#180 - The Switch Witch with Bernie Salazar show art #180 - The Switch Witch with Bernie Salazar

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

Reunion alert! Bernie and I are back with our first podcast in a minute. We actually recorded this October 20, 2022... but evidently the Switch B* (err... I mean...) The Switch Witch is still around... and we have thoughts. My kids (then 8 and 9 years old) came to me and asked "Mom, do we believe in the switch witch?" I responded, "Never heard of her." They said, "Good, because she takes away your candy and that's just MEAN!." After some assurance from me, the girls decided to make a "Go Away" sign and put it over their Halloween buckets. Bernie has his own story to share about discovering the...

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Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

My guests Abbe Greenberg and Maggie a.k.a. “The Anxiety Sisters” have built a lasting friendship and a thriving online community over their lifelong struggles with anxiety. In this episode, you’ll learn about why there is no one-size-fits-all approach to managing anxiety and how their new book THE ANXIETY SISTERS’ SURVIVAL GUIDE can help you cope with anxiety and find ways to laugh along the way. That may sound strange, but seriously, this book has humor and actually makes anxiety seem fun, or at least less overwhelming and lonely. Visit for links and show notes.

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#178 - What If I'm 'Too Numb' to Connect? with Bernie Salazar show art #178 - What If I'm 'Too Numb' to Connect? with Bernie Salazar

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

Hey, listeners! Bernie and I continue our conversations on 'connection' and 'numbness' as we re-connect to each other after a year or so apart (thanks global pandemic). This is episode 2 of 3 in our series where Bernie goes deeper in describing his feelings of numbness and explores more about where they are coming from, why they're there and what he can do now. I chime in with my usual... 'it's OK to be here, wow look at your strengths, B... and let's make sense of this...' rah rah support. With heart and humor, we tackle what it feels like when you're spiraling down and disconnected. CW:...

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#177 - Bouncing Back from Numbness with Bernie Salazar show art #177 - Bouncing Back from Numbness with Bernie Salazar

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

We're baaaaaack! Bernie and Rebecca managed to chat one more time before the end of 2021 and it was bittersweet. Tune in and find out what a sh*tstorm it has been for us. Bernie shares how his coping mechanisms of shutting down and feeling "numb" have returned and Rebecca helps support a gentle kindness toward re-approaching self-care practices. How do you "spiral up" when the sh*t is going down? Visit bodykindnessbook.com/podcast.

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#176 - Why Intuitive Eating Works for Diabetes Concerns show art #176 - Why Intuitive Eating Works for Diabetes Concerns

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

This is Episode 6 in a special Self-Care for Diabetes series on the Body Kindness podcast, with my guest co-host Dietitian Glenys Oyston.

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#175 - Why Modified Movement Works for Diabetes show art #175 - Why Modified Movement Works for Diabetes

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

This episode is for any listener who feels like what they can do with movement right now is "not good enough". We talk about how modification is a good thing when it comes to exercise and diabetes. But what we really want is for you to feel like any positive and meaningful step you can take toward a peaceful relationship to movement and your body is “worth it.” Visit bodykindnessbook.com/podcast for show notes.

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#174 - The Truth About Carbs and Diabetes show art #174 - The Truth About Carbs and Diabetes

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

The #1 thing that people stress about when it comes to diabetes and food? "Carbs". In this episode Glenys Oyston and I talk about some of the myths around carbohydrates and diabetes. We share a truth that your overall eating patterns, not individual nutrients, matter when considering how food is involved in your health, your well-being, and your diabetes concerns. Visit bodykindnessbook.com/podcast for show notes.

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Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

Is checking your blood sugar levels giving you anxiety? This is your Body Kindness episode. Glenys Oyston and I discuss the most pressing myths when it comes to reading your blood sugar levels to help you come up with a flexible and workable plan. Visit bodykindnessbook.com/podcast for links & show notes.

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#172 - Understanding Weight Concerns and Diabetes Self-Care show art #172 - Understanding Weight Concerns and Diabetes Self-Care

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

Dietitian Glenys Oyston joins me to discuss weight concerns and diabetes care. We help you deal with doctors, learn more about weight cycling harms, and reflect on your values when it comes to caring for yourself when you have diabetes. Visit bodykindnessbook.com/podcast for links & show notes.

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#171 - How to Deal with Diabetes Diagnosis Shame show art #171 - How to Deal with Diabetes Diagnosis Shame

Body Kindness®: Transform Your Health and Never Say 'Diet' Again

This is Episode 1 in a new mini-series for Body Kindness: Self care for diabetes. We need to talk about diagnosis shame because it’s real. Doctors, family and strangers on the internet make it seem like “it’s your fault” if you get a diagnosis of diabetes or a “warning” of “prediabetes” and it’s especially mean when your weight is to blame. Tune in for our tips on shame resilience and taking meaningful action toward positive change. Show notes bodykindnessbook.com/171. Sponsor: SelfCare4Di

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Let’s talk trauma and racism. I found today’s guest, Francesca Marguerite Maximé, from her podcast called Re-Rooted on the Ram Das Be Here Now network. She interviewed Dick Schwartz, the creator of Internal Family Systems (IFS) about his “racist parts” and I was all in on their discussion.

Side note to spell out the Body Kindness connections in case it’s helpful before I go on:

Connection is one of the three core pillars for practicing Body Kindness. The book and dominant “anti-diet” / “body positivity” message mostly centers the idea of connection to one’s own body -- noticing and sensing what is happening in the present moment, feeling your “feels” and then thinking about what you need to care for yourself. This theme plays out in mindfulness, meditation, intuitive eating, and pretty much anything you do to care for yourself.

Connection is also about others… being part of something greater than yourself, forging connections in your community, the power of belonging to a group (this is all of part 4 of the Body Kindness book).

Trauma, including historical and racialized trauma, significantly impacts both of the ways in which we engage in “connection” in practicing Body Kindness.

Francesca came on the podcast to talk further about trauma and take me through a guided somatic experiencing exercise, which I fell in LOVE with after reading Resmaa Menekem’s My Grandmother’s Hands, which is truly an excellent book. I recommend audiobook! He reads it and guides you in several meditations.

You could win a FREE 45-min session with Francesca! Don’t miss the details in the show notes. Plus anyone can learn from her for FREE in an upcoming video series.

Here’s a few items we cover:

  • Conversations on historical and racialized trauma.
  • Being an embodied anti-racist is not something you do, it’s someone you become.
  • How to take nervous regulation skills and use it to lean in and become active allies instead of performative allyship.
  • Cultural trauma needs to be worked through for collective healing. That’s why we talk about reparations.
  • The four core wounds of this country: racism, oppression, white body supremacy, and capitalism.
  • Why White people especially struggle to home themselves with warm positive self-regard. (We are products of the same oppressive system.) We are more comfortable naming “diet culture” and “beauty culture.”

Francesca Links and Resources Mentioned:

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Learn from Francesca:

  • Available now! Cultivating a Courageous Heart. Three FREE 30-min embodied antiracism teaching videos. (90-min total on the themes of shame, empowerment, and mindful approach to anti-racism) and invitation to join Francesca for a FREE LIVE video teaching mid-October (after you get the videos.)
  • 5-week embodied anti-racism online course, primarily for White (or light-skin privileged)  trauma-informed helping pros in collaboration with The Academy of Therapy Wisdom This new embodied anti-racism course begins 10/14/2020.
  • Stay connected with all of Francesa’s work or learn how YOU can work with her.

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Enter to Win

You could win a free 45-minute embodied anti-racism consultation or personal session with Francesca Marguerite Maximé.

All are welcome… including White-bodied individuals and organizational leaders as well as BIPOC individuals seeking support for racialized trauma.

Leave a comment on the blog post show notes or the Instagram contest posts. I’ll choose one winner from all the entries on October 15th and announce on Instagram and on the blog post.

Interested? I would love to read your comment sharing about the connections you’re noticing between your body kindness practice, departure from diet culture, and social justice and why you would love the chance to talk with Francesca.

Contest rules: The winner will coordinate a time with Francesca’s calendar and have the session in 2020.

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About Francesca
Francesca Marguerite Maximé is a Haitian-Dominican Italian-American IMTA-accredited certified mindfulness meditation teacher mentored by Jack Kornfield, Somatic Experiencing Trauma Healing Practitioner, Indigenous Focusing Oriented Therapy practitioner, Relational Life Therapy couples coach, Focusing Oriented Therapy practitioner, and award-winning poet, author, and former television news anchor and reporter.

Francesca is based in Brooklyn, New York where she sees adults, couples and groups in person and online, and teaches therapists and other trauma specialists about mindfulness, the nervous system, attachment, embodiment and racialized trauma. Francesca also hosts the ReRooted Podcast where she explores the intersection of psychology, neuroscience, spirituality, social justice, and the creative arts.

Francesca was also the recipient of the 2019 International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies Student Advocacy and Service award for her contributions in the field of advocacy, clinical work and traumatic stress, as well as the 2019 first prize winner of the Allen Ginsberg Poetry Awards for her poem, “Pleather,” recently featured on PBS television. Last year, she was also featured in the article, Spreading the Word about Racialized Trauma by the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation. More about Francesca can be found on her website www.maximeclarity.com

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