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EP 14 Sarah Robbins and The #1 Skill Leaders Overlook (and Why It’s Costing You Momentum) show art EP 14 Sarah Robbins and The #1 Skill Leaders Overlook (and Why It’s Costing You Momentum)

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with Sarah Robbins for a masterclass in leadership, duplication, and building teams that multiply, not just grow. They talk about the overlooked skill that’s quietly holding leaders back: development. Sarah shares how she built a billion-dollar sales organization from the ground up, without recruiting a single industry leader, and why attracting people is only half the equation. She opens up about rebuilding her business from scratch after her former company changed direction, and how that experience...

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EP 13 Amber Miller on Leading When You Feel Unqualified show art EP 13 Amber Miller on Leading When You Feel Unqualified

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with Amber Miller for a powerful conversation about purpose, identity, and building a business that serves your life, not the other way around. They talk about what it’s like to reach the top rank in your company, still feel like an imposter, and how Amber found her way back to mission, clarity, and calling. She shares what changed when she stopped trying to prove she deserved her success and started showing others how to step into their own. Amber opens up about bringing her husband home, raising four...

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EP 12 The Secret to Building a Legacy Team (Not Just a Loud One) with Tara Castaneda show art EP 12 The Secret to Building a Legacy Team (Not Just a Loud One) with Tara Castaneda

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with Tara Castaneda for an honest conversation about what it really takes to build a strong, lasting team. They talk about the difference between leading followers and developing leaders, and why that shift is essential if you want your business to grow without burning out. Tara shares how she balances social media with in-person connection, and why loyalty and depth often come from the people you meet face to face. She and Keith dive into the challenges that come with management mode, how to avoid being the...

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EP 11 The Hidden Reason Most Network Marketers Stay Stuck show art EP 11 The Hidden Reason Most Network Marketers Stay Stuck

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan shares a conversation that flips the script as he steps into the guest seat, interviewed by industry icon Donna Johnson. Together, they unpack the evolution of network marketing, the power of mentorship, and what it really takes to build a business that runs without you. Keith shares his journey from skeptic to top leader, including the moment he realized his mom and aunt unknowingly modeled the difference between having a job and building a business, and why that realization changed everything. Keith and Donna...

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EP 10 Jordan Adler on How Gratitude and Grit Build Businesses show art EP 10 Jordan Adler on How Gratitude and Grit Build Businesses

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with industry legend and Beach Money author Jordan Adler for a rich conversation on decision, longevity, and building a life that matches your vision. Jordan shares his journey from living in a garage with maxed-out credit cards to becoming one of the top earners in the industry, and why everything changed the moment he decided quitting was no longer an option. He and Keith unpack the unscalable activities that actually scale, how relationships outlast transactions, and why the real wealth in this profession...

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EP 9 No Fluff, No Fear, Just Leadership with LeeAnne Ruff show art EP 9 No Fluff, No Fear, Just Leadership with LeeAnne Ruff

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with longtime friend and industry powerhouse LeeAnne Ruff for a bold conversation on leadership, resilience, and navigating change in uncertain times. LeeAnne opens up about the mindset cracks forming across the industry, why belief is the most underdeveloped skill in leadership, and how a single Facebook post unexpectedly sparked a movement. She and Keith unpack what it means to lead with conviction when things feel shaky, how to help your team rediscover joy in the product, and why connection, not...

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EP 8 Thomas Tidlund on Serving People, Not Just Paychecks show art EP 8 Thomas Tidlund on Serving People, Not Just Paychecks

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with global leader and legacy builder Thomas Tidlund for a conversation that blends wisdom, conviction, and uncommon clarity. Thomas shares his journey from earning a $24 check in his first six months to building a business that created true generational impact. He and Keith dive deep into the difference between motivation and conviction, the lost art of serving new people, and why the compensation plan should be the only real incentive. Together, they explore how to meet people where they are without losing...

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EP 7 Eva Schmidt on How to Grow Leaders by Moving from Pointer to Proof show art EP 7 Eva Schmidt on How to Grow Leaders by Moving from Pointer to Proof

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with Eva Schmidt, a top-ranking leader known not just for her results, but for the deep culture and movement she’s built along the way. Eva shares how spontaneity, grit, and a long-game mindset helped her turn a desire for freedom into a thriving business. She and Keith unpack the difference between building transactions and building people, why intuition often beats checklists, and how real duplication begins when leaders stop trying to be the star. Together, they dive into the concept of pointer vs....

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EP 6 Courtney Bell on Listening, Leading, and Letting Go of the Old Way show art EP 6 Courtney Bell on Listening, Leading, and Letting Go of the Old Way

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with Courtney Bell, a seasoned leader who made the bold decision to walk away from a decade of success at Beachbody to start over intentionally and on her own terms. Courtney opens up about the burnout that nearly broke her, the courage it took to leave what was no longer aligned, and how she's rebuilding differently at Hugh & Grace. Together, she and Keith dive into what it really means to build with purpose, why creating a business around peace and connection beats hustle and pressure, and how...

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EP 5 Lori Bush on Leadership, Loyalty, and the Truth About Duplication show art EP 5 Lori Bush on Leadership, Loyalty, and the Truth About Duplication

Leaders, a Podcast for Top Network Marketers and those striving to be with Keith Callahan | Network Marketing | MLM | Direct Sales

In this episode of Leaders, a Network Marketing Podcast, host Keith Callahan sits down with Lori Bush, former CEO of Rodan + Fields and one of the most respected voices in direct selling. Lori shares the behind-the-scenes story of building a billion-dollar brand from the ground up — and the pivotal lessons she learned about leadership, product strategy, and the soul of the network marketing model. Keith and Lori explore the tension between digital innovation and human connection, what it really means to duplicate leadership (not just sales), and why understanding the “people first”...

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Join host Keith Callahan as he interviews Jamie Shepherd, a top-ranking leader in the network marketing company Hugh and Grace. Jamie shares her profound journey from Beachbody to Hugh and Grace, emphasizing the importance of creating a non-toxic work environment, fostering genuine connections, and prioritizing mental and physical health. This episode delves into how Jamie and her team cultivate a supportive, integrity-driven community that values human connection over profits. Learn how the right mindset, collaborative leadership, and a commitment to authenticity can drive unprecedented success in network marketing.


00:00 Creating a Safe Space for Vulnerability
00:59 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
01:40 Jamie Shepherd’s Journey from Beachbody to Hugh and Grace
02:35 The Importance of Mindset and Community
03:33 Welcoming Jamie Shepherd
06:10 Jamie Shepherd’s Background and Early Career
09:18 Transitioning to a New Company
11:01 Life in Vermont and Personal Reflections
14:08 Realizing the Need for Change
17:10 The Decision to Leave Beachbody
21:01 Finding a New Path with Hugh and Grace
25:29 Building a New Team Culture
29:12 Prioritizing Health and Non-Toxic Work Environment
38:01 Attracting Leaders with Integrity
38:57 Empowering and Healthy Network Marketing
39:56 Leaving with Grace and Integrity
42:57 Building a Supportive Community
45:10 Creating a Safe Space for Vulnerability
48:16 Intentional Leadership and Emotional Intelligence
01:01:51 Balancing Systems and Culture
01:09:31 Shaping the Future of Network Marketing

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