#538: Curious How AI Changes Your Customers? Mark Schaefer Has Some Answers.
Release Date: 10/20/2025
Business of Story
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info_outlineMark Schaefer, author of How AI Changes Your Customers, discussing research from 300 global futurists on artificial intelligence's impact on customer behavior, marketing strategy, and business success through 2035. Learn the dual content strategy for optimizing both AI algorithms and human connection.
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