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CNLP 712 | The Difference Between Preaching to a Pre-Christian and Post-Christian Culture: Mark Clark on Leveraging Your Unique Personality—Even Tourettes and OCD—and How to Talk to An Anxious Generation

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

Release Date: 02/25/2025

CNLP 725 | Too Young to Lead? John Eldredge on Age, Authority, and the Hidden Hunger Success and Marriage Can't Fill show art CNLP 725 | Too Young to Lead? John Eldredge on Age, Authority, and the Hidden Hunger Success and Marriage Can't Fill

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John Eldredge asks whether 30 is too young to be a lead pastor (and what to do if you're in your 20s or 30s and leading a large church). He also talks about finding spiritual authority and the stages every man goes through in life, from warrior to king to sage. 🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Did you know that partnering with Compassion helps fulfill your church's call to The Great Commission? Bring this mission focus to YOUR church, and then watch God use YOUR church to impact the world. Access the latest research being released about the church....

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CNLP 724 | Leadership Wounds That Become Ticking Time Bombs: Levi Lusko on Navigating a Mid-Life Crisis in Ministry at 38 and the Mixed Gifting and Motivations of Preachers show art CNLP 724 | Leadership Wounds That Become Ticking Time Bombs: Levi Lusko on Navigating a Mid-Life Crisis in Ministry at 38 and the Mixed Gifting and Motivations of Preachers

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Levi Lusko opens up about navigating a mid-life crisis in ministry at 38 and identifying wounds that become a ticking time bomb. Plus, Levi and Carey explore the mixed motives and gifting of preachers. 🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Did you know that partnering with Compassion helps fulfill your church's call to The Great Commission? Bring this mission focus to YOUR church, and then watch God use YOUR church to impact the world.       Brought to you by

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CNLP 723 | Pick My Brain: Raw Answers to Your Leadership Questions on Ambition, Being a CNLP 723 | Pick My Brain: Raw Answers to Your Leadership Questions on Ambition, Being a "Professional" Christian, and Firing People

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Carey Nieuwhof takes the top questions young leaders submitted about ambition and how it works for and against you. Plus, he discusses media consumption habits, being a 'professional" Christian because you work on staff, and how to fire people (well).  🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Track attendance, giving, salvations, and volunteers in real-time. Compare numbers year-over-year, across campuses, or even against national trends.     Brought to you by

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CNLP 722 | When No One Trust Pastors Anymore: Glenn Packiam on The Nex-Gen Church Leader Mental Health Crisis And The Difference Between Being Weary and Wounded show art CNLP 722 | When No One Trust Pastors Anymore: Glenn Packiam on The Nex-Gen Church Leader Mental Health Crisis And The Difference Between Being Weary and Wounded

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Glenn Packiam talks about how to pastor in an age where no one trusts pastors, the church leader mental health crisis (especially among next-gen leaders), and the difference between being weary and being wounded in leadership.   🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Train Gloo AI on your church’s own documents, policies, and beliefs—so your team and congregation get trustworthy, on-brand answers instantly. Go to   Download BELAY’s free guide to delegation today:   Brought to you by

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CNLP 721 | When Couples Fight About Everything: Gabe and Rebekah Lyons Open Up About Marriage, Sex, and Honest Advice for Two Career Couples show art CNLP 721 | When Couples Fight About Everything: Gabe and Rebekah Lyons Open Up About Marriage, Sex, and Honest Advice for Two Career Couples

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In an incredibly candid conversation, Gabe and Rebekah Lyons open up about their 28-year marriage. They discuss how they fight about everything, sex, navigating two careers, parenting, and how, despite all the very real challenges, they've made it through. 🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Until April 11th, I'm offering a with my course, The Art of Preaching. If you don't see a difference in your preaching, just email me by August 31st for a complete and immediate refund.   Go to to schedule a quick, no-obligation demo and save $500 when you...

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CNLP 720 | Why Woke Broke: Mark Sayers on the Massive Trump-Era Cultural Upheaval and How to Find Hope in New Global Chaos show art CNLP 720 | Why Woke Broke: Mark Sayers on the Massive Trump-Era Cultural Upheaval and How to Find Hope in New Global Chaos

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Mark Sayers brings astonishing insight to the rapid cultural, economic, and political change we're seeing right now in America and globally. Carey and Mark cover why woke broke, the massive upheaval of the status quo being ushered by Trump and his cadre, and how to find hope for the church in the new global chaos. 🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Text 'carey' to 46816   The Chosen: Last Supper is in theaters now, and it’s the must-see event of the Easter season.  Grab your tickets for all three parts today at   Access your free...

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CNLP 719 | Why Teens Don't Trust the Church: Kara Powell on Why Young Women are Dropping Out of Church, And The Keys to Reaching The Next Generation show art CNLP 719 | Why Teens Don't Trust the Church: Kara Powell on Why Young Women are Dropping Out of Church, And The Keys to Reaching The Next Generation

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In this episode, Kara Powell discusses why teens and young adults don't trust the church. Plus, Carey and Kara talk about why young women are dropping out of church, why young men are leaning in, and the keys to reaching Gen Z and Gen Alpha. 🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Easter is the most attended Sunday of the year—and it’s less than 3 weeks away. Are you ready to connect with every visitor who walks through your doors? Get Gloo Messaging set up TODAY so you’re ready to connect when it matters most. Sign up for free at .   The Chosen:...

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CNLP 718 | When Christians Become the Minority: Warren Bird and Adelle Banks on The Shifts Needed To  Make Your Church Future-Ready and the Surprising Reasons People Give for Not Attending Church show art CNLP 718 | When Christians Become the Minority: Warren Bird and Adelle Banks on The Shifts Needed To Make Your Church Future-Ready and the Surprising Reasons People Give for Not Attending Church

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Warren Bird and Adelle Banks share data and case studies on what you need to do to make your church future-ready and to experience church growth. Plus, they go deep on what happens when Christians become the minority in the US and the surprising reasons people give for not attending church.   🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Check out the latest research about the Church in the United States. Just go to . For over a decade, BELAY has matched busy leaders like you with the support they need to start delegating. to delegation today: 25 Things to...

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CNLP 717 | Does Character Even Matter Any More in Leadership (And Ministry)? show art CNLP 717 | Does Character Even Matter Any More in Leadership (And Ministry)?

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Does character even matter anymore for Christians? If you look at the moral failure happening among pastors and the current culture politically, you'd think not. But the truth is your character matters far more than you think, and it's what the next generation is looking for. In this episode, Carey explores the critical role of character in leadership, especially within Christian ministry. Carey debunks three dangerous myths about character and competence, emphasizing that character is essential for effective leadership. Plus, he shares personal insights and stresses that character impacts...

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CNLP 716 | A New Model for Funding Churches: Mark Batterson on Visionary Entrepreneurship, and The Gradual and Sudden Pattern of Success show art CNLP 716 | A New Model for Funding Churches: Mark Batterson on Visionary Entrepreneurship, and The Gradual and Sudden Pattern of Success

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Mark Batterson unpacks the funding and church planting strategy of National Community Church. He shares how NCC went from 29 people to owning coffee houses and city blocks in one of America's most expensive real estate markets. We also discuss the truth of how 'success' goes from gradual to sudden. 🔗  📩  🗣️  🧠 🎥 Follow Follow   Super early bird pricing is available for another week, so don’t wait—visit to grab your spot today.   Get your FREE State of the Church tools at Gloo. Go to to get your free kit, and light up your own church...

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Mark Clark talks about the difference between preaching to a pre-Christian and post-Christian culture and how to do both effectively so that you can reach people and grow your church.

Plus, Mark and Carey discuss how to leverage your unique gifting and quirks. Mark shares how he's learned to preach and lead with Tourettes Syndrome and OCD. And he discusses how to solve the problem of life for an anxious generation.

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THE ART OF REACHING COURSE

In The Art of Reaching—my course with Mark Clark—you get practical strategies, insights, and lessons to reach more unchurched people.

 

STATE OF THE CHURCH

I’ll be co-hosting the State of the Church event alongside Nona Jones; with presentations by David Kinnaman, Ed Stetzer, and stories from pastors you need to know. 

It’s all happening March 12 at 1pm Eastern, 10am Pacific.

Visit stateofthechurch.com to sign up and take part in shaping the future of your church

 

 

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