Experience and Expertise - Matter in the Hiring and Fractional World
Release Date: 04/09/2025
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Marcus Chan is the founder of Venli Consulting Group and a top sales coach known for transforming underperforming teams into high-performing machines. With a background that spans individual sales excellence and large-scale team leadership, Marcus brings a laser focus to diagnosing the real problems behind poor sales results—and solving them with intention, systems, and deep-rooted discipline. “Are you solving a symptom or are you solving the problem?” “Preparation creates precision.” “Eighty, ninety percent of people float. They just float. They’re not intentional.” Marcus...
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Jamie Vinck is a seasoned behavioral health executive, therapist, and author of The Rehab Playbook. With a background in corporate HR and a powerful personal journey through family, leadership, and loss, Jamie brings a unique blend of clinical insight and real-world business acumen. As the CEO of The Meadows and a board leader in national addiction treatment efforts, she is passionate about helping people find healthier coping mechanisms and create lasting change. Her work bridges professional success and personal healing — a true catalyst for transformation. Three Key Quotes “Addiction...
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Todd Caponi is a sales historian, author, and transparency advocate. With decades of experience in leadership and sales strategy, Todd is best known for transforming how people think about negotiation. His latest book, “The Four Levers of Negotiation,” introduces a refreshingly honest, trust-building framework that empowers sellers and buyers alike to make better, faster decisions together. “Every for profit company in the world - they run their business based on four things, and that's, where four levers negotiating comes from.” - Todd Caponi Todd Caponi joins the show to share how...
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DeShawn Wynn is a veteran event strategist, entrepreneur, and transformational retreat leader. With nearly 30 years of event planning experience and 15 years as the founder of Winning Touch Event Design, she blends logistics and heart-centered transformation. Her mission? To help people pause, ask deeper questions, and reconnect with the why behind their actions. “An event is supposed to cause change — people should leave different than when they came in.” “Don’t wait for a tragedy to be your catalyst. Let a luxurious retreat be your wake-up call.” “Value means putting...
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Mike Simmons and Brent Schlenker are learning and enablement veterans with a deep passion for helping professionals connect, prepare, and get the most out of events. Mike brings expertise in sales enablement and field learning, while Brent is a long-time learning and development (L&D) leader known for building communities and driving conversation in the L&D space. Together, they dive into how to make the most of DevLearn 2025 — from tactical planning to real-time strategies for networking, booth visits, and personal performance at large conferences. "Go in with a plan. Take a...
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Kate Morgan is the author of Custom-Fit, and the founder of BostonHCP. She is a no-nonsense, passionate voice in the world of HR, culture, and team development. With a background in scaling teams, Kate focuses on helping small business owners build thriving organizations from the inside out. She’s a Forbes-published author, EO Accelerator Chair, and a firm believer in people as the ultimate competitive advantage. “A core value isn't a value unless you can say…you'll be fired if you don't live up to it.” “Execution rests with your people. Get that right and you're going to be head...
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Donald Forgione — Former Director of 175 Florida State Parks, with 40+ years in ecotourism, leadership, and public service. Now a business owner, speaker, and coach, Donald connects leadership lessons from nature to business. Mike Simmons — Founder of Find My Catalyst, leadership coach, and sales strategist, helping people identify and act on their catalyst for change. Three Key Quotes Donald Forgione: “Trust is the key to absolutely everything… If they’re not feeling what I’m saying, I might as well throw it out the window.” Mike Simmons: “A revenue challenge is often a...
info_outlineMike Simmons is a leadership and operations expert who helps organizations drive growth through clarity and execution. He leads initiatives through Find My Catalyst, offering services in leadership, revenue, and operations.
Tim Dyck brings deep experience in recruitment and people strategies. He is the founder of Best Culture Solutions, helping companies build great teams with purpose.
Together, Mike and Tim dive into the nuances of fractional leadership, sharing hard-won lessons, memorable metaphors, and actionable insights.
đź’¬ Three Key Quotes
"Don’t mistake knowledge for experience. And don’t mistake experience for expertise."
"If you’re hiring a fractional leader, make sure they’ve run out of gas before—because they’ll know how to get you back on the road."
"Learning is great. But presenting yourself as an expert without experience can do more harm than good."
📌 50-Word Summary
Mike Simmons and Tim Dyck unpack the world of fractional work, using real-life analogies to explain the value of experience and the risk of surface-level knowledge. They share the difference between knowing, doing, and mastering—and how true expertise accelerates impact. A must-listen for leaders hiring with intention.
🔑 5 Key Takeaways
1. The Fuel Tank Metaphor for Expertise
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Experience is knowing how far your vehicle can go on empty.
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True experts have broken down before—and know how to recover fast.
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Awareness, experience, and expertise are not the same—and each plays a different role.
2. Beware of Shallow Expertise
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Surface-level learners can use the right words but may not deliver results.
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Using tools like ChatGPT doesn't replace real-world experience.
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Misrepresented expertise can harm organizations and delay progress.
3. Fractional Leadership is Not for Learners
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Fractional leaders must already know how to solve the problem you have.
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They're not there to “figure it out”; they’re there to execute.
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Expecting quick results means you need someone who’s already done the work.
4. Simplify to Accelerate Speed to Impact
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Complexity slows progress; simplify by removing what’s unnecessary.
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Clear next steps fuel momentum in leadership and operations.
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Fractional experts help reduce overwhelm and focus on what matters.
5. Align Role with Readiness
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Use readiness assessments before hiring fractional talent.
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Match the right expert to the right job—based on proven track record.
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Fractional success is rooted in fit, not just availability.
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