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Build the Next Chapter Before You’re Paid

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Release Date: 02/04/2026

Summer School: Elizabeth Gilbert on Truth-Telling, Mercy, and the Art of Being Yourself show art Summer School: Elizabeth Gilbert on Truth-Telling, Mercy, and the Art of Being Yourself

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here. Every summer, I revisit conversations from the archive that have stood the test of time. Not because I'm nostalgic, but because the best ideas don't expire. They deepen. This is the sixth and final installment of Summer School 2026—episodes I personally returned to most this year when I was stuck, blocked, or facing a very particular need. This one with Elizabeth Gilbert is the closer for a reason. I kept finding myself spending so much time navigating my internal landscape that it felt like it was taking me away from everything I wanted to do out in the world. And...

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Summer School: Mel Robbins on Anxiety, Action, and the 5-Second Rule show art Summer School: Mel Robbins on Anxiety, Action, and the 5-Second Rule

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here. Every summer, I revisit conversations from the archive that have stood the test of time. Not because I'm nostalgic, but because the best ideas don't expire. They deepen. This is another installment of Summer School—episodes I personally went back to this year when I was stuck. This one with Mel Robbins is near the top of that list. At 41, Mel was unemployed, drowning in debt, and so overwhelmed she could barely get out of bed. Then she discovered something that sounds almost too simple to take seriously: the 5-Second Rule. Count backwards—5-4-3-2-1—and move...

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Summer School: Ryan Holiday on Stoicism, Marketing, and Creating Work That Lasts show art Summer School: Ryan Holiday on Stoicism, Marketing, and Creating Work That Lasts

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here. Every summer, I revisit conversations from the archive that have stood the test of time. Not because I'm nostalgic, but because the best ideas don't expire. They deepen. This is another installment of Summer School—the set of episodes I personally return to the most when I'm stuck and need something true to lean on. This one with Ryan Holiday is high on that list. I've gone back to it multiple times this year alone. Ryan is a legend—author, media strategist, New York Times bestselling writer, and the person who brought Stoic philosophy into popular culture for a...

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Summer School: Ben Uyeda on Escalation, Purpose, and Building Bigger Without Losing Yourself show art Summer School: Ben Uyeda on Escalation, Purpose, and Building Bigger Without Losing Yourself

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here. Every summer, I revisit conversations from the archive that have stood the test of time. Not because I'm nostalgic, but because the best ideas don't expire. They deepen. This is another installment of Summer School—episodes I return to when I'm stuck. When a pattern I've been conditioned to see suddenly needs to be broken, I go back to the people who help me think differently. This one with Ben Uyeda is near the top of that list. Ben is a designer, entrepreneur, and creative force of nature who left a successful architecture firm and an Ivy League teaching gig to...

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Summer School: Tony Robbins on Peak Performance, Precision Medicine, and Transforming Your Quality of Life show art Summer School: Tony Robbins on Peak Performance, Precision Medicine, and Transforming Your Quality of Life

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here. Every summer, I revisit conversations from the archive that have stood the test of time. Not because I'm nostalgic, but because the best ideas don't expire. They deepen. This is another installment of Summer School—episodes I go back to when I'm stuck, looking for the person in my network who's already lived the answer. This one with Tony Robbins is a perfect example. I've been navigating some peak performance challenges around my physical body—joints breaking down from a life as an athlete. Tony has spent years deep in the breakthroughs happening in precision...

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Summer School: Brené Brown on Vulnerability, Creativity, and the Courage to Be Seen show art Summer School: Brené Brown on Vulnerability, Creativity, and the Courage to Be Seen

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here. Every summer, I revisit conversations from the archive that have stood the test of time. Not because I'm nostalgic, but because the best ideas don't expire. They deepen. This is the first installment of Summer School, a series where we're bringing back conversations that still have something important to teach us. This episode with Brené Brown was originally recorded more than a decade ago, shortly after Daring Greatly was published. A lot has changed since then. The platforms have changed. The technology has changed. The creative landscape has changed. But one thing...

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Your Imperfection Is the Advantage show art Your Imperfection Is the Advantage

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here We are living in a moment where perfect is cheaper than ever. A few words into a prompt can generate an image. A template can make your brand look polished. A filter can smooth the rough edges. An AI tool can help you produce something slick, flattering, and technically impressive in seconds. On the surface, that sounds like creative abundance. But there is a catch. When everything can be perfected, perfect starts to feel invisible. That is the tension at the heart of this episode. In a world flooded with polish, your imperfections are not the liability. They are the...

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Jeff Boyd: Why Hard Things Are the Opportunity show art Jeff Boyd: Why Hard Things Are the Opportunity

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here Jeff Boyd is on the show today, and this conversation is about building the kind of life and business that does not always look like the predominant story on the internet. Jeff is the founder and chairman of MTE, More Than Energy, which he describes in this episode as “an energy that loves you back.” Before that, he spent 15 years as the President and co-owner of Luggage Free, where he expanded global operations to more than 100 countries before selling the company in 2019. What I loved about this conversation is that it is not the usual story about chasing the next...

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Bet On Yourself show art Bet On Yourself

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here There is a particular kind of silence that can change the direction of a life. Not the peaceful kind. Not the silence you seek out when you need space to think. I mean the silence that lands in the room right after you say something true. The silence after you tell people what you really want. The silence after you say, out loud, that you are thinking about leaving the safe path and choosing the one that actually feels like yours. I remember that silence very clearly. I remember the day I told my family I was going to leave the path everyone expected for me and become a...

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Eric Zimmer: How A Little Becomes A Lot show art Eric Zimmer: How A Little Becomes A Lot

The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Hey friends, Chase here Eric Zimmer is on the show today, and this conversation is exactly the kind of reminder we all need when we are trying to change something real. You probably know Eric from The One You Feed, his award-winning podcast about wisdom, behavior change, mental health, spirituality, and what it means to live well. But Eric’s new book, , goes somewhere even more fundamental. It asks a question that feels especially urgent for creators, entrepreneurs, leaders, parents, and anyone trying to build a meaningful life in a world that constantly tells us to optimize everything: What...

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Hey friends, Chase here

This episode is short and direct — and it centers on an idea that quietly changes everything once you see it:

You don’t get paid first for the work you want to do next. You build it first.

Most people wait for permission. They wait for a client, an investor, or an opportunity to show up before they start creating. But in my experience, it works the other way around. The next chapter of your career is built in parallel with the one you’re already in.

I’ve always balanced paid work with deeply personal exploration. The commercial projects put food on the table. The personal work is where curiosity lives. And it turns out, that curiosity-driven work is where every meaningful breakthrough in my career has come from.

Here’s the core idea:

Build the next chapter before you’re paid.

Your portfolio becomes your future. The work you make on your own time — without guarantees — becomes proof of what you’re capable of next. Clients don’t hire potential. Investors don’t fund intentions. They respond to momentum, prototypes, and evidence.

Whether you’re trying to pivot creatively, grow your business, or step into a new role, the path forward is the same: start making the work now. Use what you already do to fund exploration. Let your community become your laboratory. Create first. Refine along the way.

This isn’t about reckless leaps or quitting your job tomorrow. It’s about building in parallel — putting money in the bank while you develop the skills, projects, and ideas that point toward where you actually want to go.

In today’s episode I cover:

  • Why your personal work drives your biggest professional breakthroughs
  • How prototypes open doors faster than pitches
  • Why your portfolio is the roadmap to your next chapter

If you’ve been waiting for someone else to greenlight your growth, this episode is an invitation to start now — to explore what you’re curious about and build something real before expecting the world to catch up.

Until next time, create first — and remember: your next chapter starts with what you make today.