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EP272 More Than Just Packets: Is NDR a "First-Class" Cloud Security Control?

Cloud Security Podcast by Google

Release Date: 04/13/2026

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Cloud Security Podcast by Google

Guest: ,  CEO, Pulse Security AI , Chief Go-To-Market Officer,  Topics:  You’ve described Pulse as an 'operational management platform for cybersecurity leaders.' What does a security management platform look like in practice?  How does Pulse bridge this 'translation layer' gap? How do you help a CISO transition from presenting patch rates and MTTD to discussing liability exposure and business capital allocation? What actually gets better when someone works with Pulse? Other than, of course, your ARR numbers for your next funding round? What is the single most...

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Cloud Security Podcast by Google

ZeroDay Cloud: How a hacking competition exposed the reality of AI-augmented offensive security. The Power of Multi-Agent AI: Why a single model is not enough, and how specialized agents (Threat Modeling, Hunting, Triage, and Adversarial Debate) collaborate like a human team. GitHub RCE & CosmosDB Cross Tenant Access: A breakdown of the record-breaking bounty for the GitHub RCE report and the Azure CosmosDB master key vulnerability discovered by Atlas. Humans vs. AI: Whether vulnerability researchers are becoming "buggy whip manufacturers" or if human insight, instinct, and the smell of...

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How do you build the foundations for a secure Google-scale enterprise that stays secure even if an AI is writing the code and nobody has time to review it? In this episode, hosts Timothy Peacock and Anton Chuvakin sit down with Christoph Kern, Principal Security Engineer at Google, to look under the hood of "secure-by-design." They trace Google’s 15-year engineering journey to fundamentally eliminate entire classes of vulnerabilities rather than just playing whack-a-mole with bugs after they are written. 🛠️ Software Engineering vs. Software Craft: Why Google ditched "be careful"...

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Cloud Security Podcast by Google

How do you make sure your favorite cereal is always on the shelves when a cyber disaster strikes? In this episode, hosts Tim Peacock and Alicja Cade sit down with Noah Korba, VP of Digital Core, Cybersecurity, and Enterprise Architecture at General Mills, to look under the hood of "Mills Collaborative Recovery"—their intensive, annual two-week drill that actually recovers 90% of their Google Cloud estate to test real-world cyber resilience. ⌨️ "Clicking and Clacking" vs. Talking: Why General Mills ditched traditional tabletop discussions to actually...

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Cloud Security Podcast by Google

Cloud Security Podcast Episode 285: Defending Against the AI DDoS Is internet trust fundamentally broken? On this episode, former Google "Click Fraud Czar" and Reken CEO Shuman Ghosemajumder joins hosts Tim Peacock and Nolan Karpinski to trace the evolution of automated fraud—from Gmail's early invite days to the origin of "credential stuffing." Discover why today’s threat landscape feels like an AI DDoS, how cybercriminals exploit the "Smart Cow" resource model, and why running security models on-device is our best shot at defending against scaled...

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Can you build a fully functional, high-scale SIEM in just two weeks for under $7,000? In this episode of the Cloud Security Podcast, hosts Tim Peacock and Kyle Champlin sit down with long-time collaborator Dan Lucier, Founder of Nano, to unpack how he "vibe-coded" an entire SIEM from scratch during his end-of-year holiday break. Dan shares his journey of leveraging bleeding-edge AI code assistants to go from a Postgres prototype to a blazing-fast, production-ready SIEM built on Rust and ClickHouse. In this episode, we cover: 🛠️ The...

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Cloud Security Podcast by Google

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Guest:

  • Raja Mukerji, Co-Founder & Chief Scientist, Extrahop
  • Rafal Los, VP of Client Relations and Strategic Initiatives, Extrahop

Topics:

  • Is Network Detection and Response (NDR) coming back after being shoved to the side by EDR a bit? Is this for real?
  • What's the value proposition of NDR in 2026, because some people still don't understand it? How does NDR apply to the world of WFH, cloud/SaaS, encryption, high bandwidth, etc?
  • Is the value of NDR the same, or different, when it comes to public (or private) cloud?
  • How does NDR fill visibility gaps that identity and agent-based solutions cannot?
  • What does NDR offer that built-in cloud security tooling (as of right now) does not? Would you call NDR a key cloud security control?
  • Does NDR help with shadow AI?
  • NDR elephant in the room is sometimes cost. How does cost change the value prop when compared to on-premise or physical infrastructure?

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