612: Admission Nutrients (Part 6 of 6: Intellectual Curiosity): Important Ingredients for a Well-Balanced College Admission Process—And Life with Hillary Dickman
The College Essay Guy Podcast: A Practical Guide to College Admissions
Release Date: 08/05/2025
The College Essay Guy Podcast: A Practical Guide to College Admissions
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info_outlineThe College Essay Guy Podcast: A Practical Guide to College Admissions
Hi, friends, and welcome back to our series, “On Becoming: The Art and Craft of Personal Storytelling.” In this series, we take a close look at personal essays written by real students, talking about why we love them, what makes them work, and how they came to be. In this episode, we break down an essay called "The Stomach Whisperer" about a student who used to lie on her grandmother's stomach and wonder if the echoing gurgle I’d just heard was caused by the molasses or by the cinnamon. I'm joined today by Tillie Gottlieb, a former admission officer turned Director of College...
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info_outlineThe College Essay Guy Podcast: A Practical Guide to College Admissions
Hi, friends, and welcome back to our series, "On Becoming: The Art and Craft of Personal Storytelling," where we take a close look at personal essays written by real students, talk about why we love them, what makes them work, and how they came to be. In this episode, I'm joined by Amber Patterson, Regional Director of Admission at Texas Christian University. This conversation does two things at once. We read a real student essay closely, line by line, and we get inside an admission reader's head to understand what's actually landing as she reads through it. We get into: What Amber hopes to...
info_outlineThe College Essay Guy Podcast: A Practical Guide to College Admissions
Hi, friends, and welcome back to our series, “On Becoming: The Art and Craft of Personal Storytelling.” where we take a close look at personal essays written by real students, talking about why we love them, what makes them work, and how they came to be. In this episode, I’m joined by Hillary Dickman, Senior Assistant Director of Admission at Colorado College. In past episodes, we've really broken down these essays and gotten into the nooks and crannies of what makes them work. But in this episode, I really wanted to get a sense of how Hillary sees essays from an admission reader's...
info_outlineThe College Essay Guy Podcast: A Practical Guide to College Admissions
Hi, friends, and welcome back to our series, “On Becoming: The Art and Craft of Personal Storytelling.” In this series, we take a close look at personal essays written by real students, talking about why we love them, what makes them work, and how they came to be. In this episode, we break down an essay that is one of my new favorites. It’s conceptually rich because even though it’s on molding clay, it could be considered any of these montage types: I love/I know, Essence Objects, Skills/Superpower, Identity, Home, or Uncommon extracurricular activity. That’s not a goal I’m...
info_outlineThe College Essay Guy Podcast: A Practical Guide to College Admissions
Hi, friends, and welcome back to our series, “On Becoming: The Art and Craft of Personal Storytelling.” In this series, we take a close look at personal essays written by real students, talking about why we love them, what makes them work, and how they came to be. In this episode, we share an essay that begins: “Robes are the textile version of comfort food; they’re my chicken noodle soup.” And it is indeed about the different robes the student wears and how each one reveals a different aspect of who the author is. I'm joined today by Andrew Callery, a college counselor...
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info_outlineWelcome back to the podcast! This is our sixth and final chapter of our series on admission nutrients — qualities that can make for a healthier, more meaningful college admission process… and life.
In case you missed it, we started with collaboration, with Raissa Diamante (Director of admission from Harvey-Mudd College), then I sat down with Deanna Dixon, (Dean of Admission at Smith College) to talk about leadership, then Tom met with Dysean Alexander (Assistant Director for West Coast Admission at Lafayette College) to talk about consistent engagement and Nathan Faust (Loyola Marymount University) to talk about service to others.
Today we conclude the series by talking about intellectual curiosity with Hillary Dickman from Colorado College. In our conversation, Hillary and I cover a lot of ground, including:
- What is intellectual curiosity in the context of the college admission process?
- Where does intellectual curiosity show up in a student’s application?
- Why is it important in the admissions process at Colorado College and how does their approach to identifying intellectual curiosity differs from other liberal arts colleges?
- What is Colorado College’s latest supplemental essay prompt?
- Advice for both students and parents as they navigate this process
- And more!
Hillary Dickman is originally from the San Francisco Bay Area and holds a Bachelor’s and a Master’s degree in Speech Communication from Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. She began her career in higher education teaching public speaking, interpersonal communication, and intercultural communication at the University of Cincinnati and the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs. Since 2021, she’s been part of the admission team at Colorado College, where she’s worked on scholarship programs, the counselor advisory board, and now focuses on print and email marketing. She’s also navigated the college admission process as a parent — her older child is a recent graduate of Wellesley College, and her younger one is a student at Colorado College.
I hope you enjoy this conversation. I certainly did.
Play-by-Play:
- 3:09 – What do college admission counselors do during the summer?
- 4:55 – What are some of the roles that Hillary plays at Colorado College?
- 8:56 – What makes Colorado College a unique school?
- 10:39 – What is intellectual curiosity in the context of the college admission process?
- 17:43 – Where does intellectual curiosity show up in a student’s application?
- 22:29 – What are some examples of intellectual curiosity from over the years?
- 32:29 – What do students or parents misunderstand about intellectual curiosity?
- 40:01 – Why is intellectual curiosity important at Colorado College?
- 48:22 – What is Colorado College’s latest supplemental essay prompt?
- 57:10 – What if the thing I’m curious about has nothing to do with my major?
- 1:00:18 – What advice does Hillary give to students for writing their personal statement?
- 1:04:03 – How long does Hillary spend reading an essay and the application as a whole?
- 1:09:54 – How does Hillary recommend students get started with the writing process?
- 1:13:58 – What are Hillary’s thoughts on using ChatGPT in the application process?
- 1:18:16 – What is demonstrated interest and why is it important to Colorado College?
- 1:24:00 – What does Hillary hope that students and parents will keep in mind throughout this process?
Resources:
- College Partnerships with CEG
- Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi: Flow, the secret to happiness (TED)
- CEG Podcast Episode 506: Demonstrated Interest: What Is it, Why Is it Important, and How Do You Show it? with Dean of Enrollment Christine Bowman
- What is Demonstrated Interest? A Practical How-To Guide
- College Essay Guy’s Personal Statement Resources
- College Essay Guy’s College Application Hub