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Re-Grifting: Bryan Johnson's Blueprint and the Cult of Longevity with Jen Jacobs

Making It Awkward

Release Date: 08/28/2025

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Bryan Johnson made a fortune and then decided to spend it on rivaling Jesus Christ and developing his Blueprint supplement line. 

Johnson was born, raised and married Mormon before leaving that religion and family to pursue eternal life on his own. He is the health and tech crossover personified. His quest for longevity has led him to replace his plasma with that of his teenage son, and receive gene therapy in an unregulated area of Honduras. Johnson’s life is pretty much an algorithm, which is fitting because he believes we should fire ourselves because our brains can’t be trusted. 

The Netflix doc about his quest to not die was released this year and Jessica Wilson, MS RD is joined by editor extraordinaire, Jen Jacobs, to discuss it. Jen is a cult enthusiast and breaks down what about Johnson’s quest smells fishy. 

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