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Wendi Middleton, Director of Continual Quality Improvement, Aging Adult Services Agency within the State of Michigan’s Department of Health and Human Services, and Dennis Sergent, President, Sergent Results Group

In Their Own Words

Release Date: 04/30/2019

System of Profound Wisdom: Awaken Your Inner Deming (Part 20) show art System of Profound Wisdom: Awaken Your Inner Deming (Part 20)

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Do you struggle to meet your goals or targets? Find out how you can change your thinking about goals and your process for setting them so you can keep moving forward. In this episode, John Dues and host Andrew Stotz discuss the first five of John's 10 Key Lessons for Data Analysis. TRANSCRIPT 0:00:03.0 Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Today I'm continuing my discussion with John Dues, who is part of the new generation of educators striving to apply Dr. Deming's principles to unleash student joy...

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Did Dr. Deming forbid setting goals? Dive into this discussion about healthy goal setting, learn why your process matters, and the four things you need to understand before you start on goals. This episode is the first in a 4-part series about goal setting. TRANSCRIPT 0:00:02.2 Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Today I'm continuing my discussion with John Dues, who is part of the new generation of educators striving to apply Dr. Deming's principles to unleash student joy in learning. This is...

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"The Cloud" is a metaphor for the top level of corporate authority - the CEO, CFO, CTO and maybe some Vice President positions. And if you're trying to transform an organization, your ideas need to penetrate the Cloud - but how? In this episode, Bill Bellows and host Andrew Stotz talk about influencing others with the aim of transformation.  TRANSCRIPT 0:00:02.2 Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz, and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Today, I'm continuing my discussion with Bill Bellows, who has spent 30 years helping people...

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Commit to Transformation: Deming in Schools Case Study (Part 20) show art Commit to Transformation: Deming in Schools Case Study (Part 20)

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What does it mean to "commit" to transformation? What does "transformation" mean? In this episode, John Dues and host Andrew Stotz discuss Point 14 of Dr. Deming's 14 Points for Management - with John's interpretations for educators. TRANSCRIPT 0:00:02.2 Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz, and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W Edwards Deming. Today I'm continuing my discussion with John Dues, who is part of the new generation of educators striving to apply Dr. Deming's principles to unleash student joy in learning. This is episode 20, and we are...

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Start Where You Are: Awaken Your Inner Deming (Part 15) show art Start Where You Are: Awaken Your Inner Deming (Part 15)

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In this episode, Bill Bellows and host Andrew Stotz talk about where and how to start using your new knowledge when you're learning Deming.  TRANSCRIPT 0:00:02.1 Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz, and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Today, I'm continuing my discussion with Bill Bellows, who has spent 30 years helping people apply Dr. Deming's ideas to become aware of how their thinking is holding them back from their biggest opportunities. The topic for today in episode 15 is Start Where You Are. Bill, take it away.  ...

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In our 3rd interview podcast of 2019, Wendi Middleton, Director of Continual Quality Improvement, from the Aging Adult Services Agency within the State of Michigan’s Department of Health and Human Services, and Dennis Sergent, President, Sergent Results Group, share reflections on the "Challenges and Opportunities in Applying the Deming Philosophy in Government."

(This is Tripp's first interview with Wendi and Dennis)

Highlights include:

  • A 5-year history of applying the Deming Philosophy within the State of Michigan's Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
  • The development of Aging and Disability Resource Centers
  • Learning "Who are our partners?"
  • Where to start? / Who does what to whom?
  • Family services and a cat
  • First exposure to the Deming Red Bead Experiment
  • Getting to know each other better within Michigan's HHS
  • Creation of the BOLD ("Building Options for Long Term Decision-Making") Council
  • Acronyms as an art-form
  • Detailing the processes - Where to start and where to integrate?
  • Exposure to control charts within the Bell Telephone System
  • Education and steps to move forward
  • Creation of the BOLD ("Be OLD") Councils
  • Acronyms as an art-form
  • Grant funding provided consulting help
  • Process steps, including road blocks and issues
  • Subject Matter Experts (SME) and Design Teams
  • A focus on quality improvement, not change
  • Policy changes, with improvements
  • Living at home, using improvements in non-emergency transportation services
  • Weekly Stand-and-Deliver meetings to review ongoing PDSA efforts
  • Continual Improvement efforts are not always “linear,” with forward improvement (sometimes they go backwards)
  • State government is a culture all by itself
  • People sometimes become their job (position)
  • Getting people on board with improvement; not always happy fits, some move on to other positions
  • Managing “Level-of-Care Determinations”
  • When facing system obstacles, take inspiration from Eleanor Roosevelt, Don’t take a “No” (answer) from someone without the authority to say “Yes”
  • Setting new standards for working with state vendors
  • New skills by Design Team members
  • “Everything is designed around getting money from the federal government”
  • Design Team roles are about improving access to state services, not finding sources of funding
  • Effectiveness (doing the right thing), before efficiency (faster, better, cheaper)
  • Cost savings have been measured, yet the bigger impact is serving more people for a given budget allocation
  • Reducing the waiting list for services
  • Instead of asking for more money, ask if the existing process can be improved to provide better service
  • Discovering a mindset that if some don’t have a problem with a given process, others won't as well (meaning, the process is deemed to be OK as is, while it may well need improvement) 
  • Impact on Design Teams after attending The Deming Institute’s “Me vs We workshop” 
  • Getting over self-interest issues
  • T-Shirt idea, “The Status Quo is Not an Option”
  • Avoiding doing better what needs not be done
  • Design Teams need ongoing support, including starting with on-boarding and ground rules
  • Emergence of self-respect and respect for others