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DoT EP108: Dave Ross On Smart and Dumb Comedy, Punk, Masculinity, and Kale, Plus Newly-Released Early Dead Kennedys Music

The Department of Tangents Podcast

Release Date: 09/26/2019

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I know I haven't dropped a new episode in a long time, but it's the holidays, and I love the holidays, so I wanted to present an audio version of my reaction to seeing The Nutcracker for the first time. This is my assessment of the story, using only the visual cues from the ballet as it was presented.  Merry Christmas and happy holidays! 

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Jon Rineman started his career with as tumultuous and triumphant a 15-year run as a comic could envision for themselves. We address that, but we also talk about his new comedy card game, Anti-Social Skills, his post-Tonight Show gig teaching at Emerson College in Boston, and what he learned about the future of late night from his students. 

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The Stay Scary Podcast is a silly podcast about serious horror, as described by host Lisa McGolgan. Every episode, Lisa and co-host Yinh Kiefer take a theme in horror films or horror lore, everything from insects to puberty, serial killers to doll parts, and have a ripsnorting good time going wherever that topic takes them. The show is as much fun to listen to as it is to be on, and taping this episode was the most fun I had in an interview this season.

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At first glance, Rob Kovacs seems to have wildly divergent interests in music. Let Go is lush and rhythmic piano pop, organic and melancholy, and tells a very human story. Look again, and you see his alter-ego, 88Bit, who orchestrates the mechanical soundtracks of throwback video games for piano. Keep listening, and you’ll hear how they blend together, how they merge in Kovac’s particular style.

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Last spring, I read a Tweet from author Paul Tremblay apologizing for his upcoming horror novel, Survivor Song. When he had turned in his final edits for the book months before, he could not have known how prescient it would seem, especially to his friends in the New England horror writing community. Survivor Song is set in Boston in the opening stages of an epidemic. A virus is spreading, hospitals are overwhelmed, the government is providing an inadequate response.

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Being an artist often means you spend your life looking for a place that feels right, finding it, and then leaving it as quickly as you can. Creative fulfilment as Brigadoon. In 2021, Jenee Halstead released Disposable Love, an album that sounds in many ways like the one she was always meant to make. With producer Dave Brophy and collaborators like Susan Cattaneo, Halstead has crafted an elegant pop album with a rich sonic palette.

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Josh Johnson is a smart joke writer at ease with his own vulnerability, and those are qualities that are only enhanced as he gets bolder as an artist. Most of this episode is centered around Elusive: A Mixtape, his album-length exploration of comedy and music. at turns silly and thoughtful, with live comedy punctuated by recorded music. Johnson shares how working with Trevor Noah has helped him both as a writer and a person.

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Season Two of the Department of Tangents Podcast coming Tuesday June 29! Six episodes, guests are comedians Josh Johnson and Jon Rineman, Stay Scary Podcast hosts Lisa and Yinh, author Paul Tremblay, and musicians Jenee Halstead and Rob Kovac! 

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This week I speak with comedian and storyteller Bethany Van Delft. Bethany hosts Artisanal Comedy every Wednesday on Instagram, which she adapted to the online comedy world very quickly. We also talked about taking care of a family under quarantine and taking some time to pause as creative people to prevent burnout. The last part of the conversation revolves around the Black Lives Matter protests and how this moment in history feels a bit different from other flashpoints.

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Paul is the songwriter at the center of The Grownup Noise, a beloved and hard to characterize indie rock outfit in Boston. Over the years, the band line-up has changed, but Paul has always been out front with his guitar and voice. This week, on June fifth, Paul is putting out a new Grownup Noise with a very new sound. If you’re a fan, you’ll notice the difference in sound immediately. But you may also notice that this is still very much a Grownup Noise album.

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Dave Ross has a fantastic new album out now called <em>The Only Man Who Has Ever Had Sex</em>. You can download it, but if you see him at a show, you can buy a download card with a special flipbook he’s made with some beautiful photos and silliness. It’s Ross’s attempt to give you a little something extra for your participation, which is something he does in his comedy, as well. A few years ago, I reviewed the aptly-titled album Holy Fuck for the comedy review site The Spit Take. It was a who’s who of alternative comedy taped at the recurring show of the same name, curated by Ross. But his new album was my first prolonged exposure to him, and I’m glad for that.

The album captures his love for dumb comedy and his compulsion to try to say something meaningful. He talks about getting high and eating the best fried chicken he’d ever tasted at a gas station in Florida, but he also interrogates extreme masculinity, poking fun at the type of guys what might utter phrases like, “I want to marry violence” and “I wish I could be a truck.” It’s an appealing mix, and there are a lot of lines that make me laugh just remembering them. I was happy to find that Ross was coming to Boston shortly after the album’s release, to a Monday-night show called CitySide Comedy. I caught up with him there to talk about dumb and thoughtful comedy, the influence of punk, and, as we started the interview as he was finishing his supper, kale.

I usually make at least some minor edits to a conversation to make it flow a bit better or cut out some pauses and stammers, but since we have near-constant background noise, the edits would have been noticeable and distracting. So this is the full thing, start to finish.

You can find out more about him on his Web site at <a href="http://davetotheross.com/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">www.davetotheross.com</a>, and also find him on <a href="https://twitter.com/davetotheross" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/davetotheross/?hl=en" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Instagram</a> under @davetotheross. The new album is called <em>The Only Man Who Has Ever Had Sex</em>, and it’s out on aspecialthing records now, and you can find them at <a href="http://astrecords.virb.com/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">www.astrecords.com</a>. Thanks also to Sam Ike and Anjan Biswas of CitySide Comedy for bringing Ross to town. If you happen to live in the Boston area, you can find out about the show on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CitySideComedy/?epa=SEARCH_BOX" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Facebook by searching CitySide Comedy</a>.

This week's featured track is an early rehearsal version of “California Uber Alles” by <a href="http://deadkennedys.com/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Dead Kennedys</a>. A couple of years before their debut album, <em>Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables</em>, punk pioneers Dead Kennedys got together and recorded a rehearsal of a lot of the music that would wind up on that album. That’s being released on September 27 under the name <em>Iguana Studios Rehearsal Tape – San Francisco 1978</em>. Jello Biafra wrote the song about then California governor Jerry Brown, but has said in interviews he softened on Brown a bit once the Reagan era began, and even changed the lyrics to include the line “We’ve got a bigger problem now.” This version is a bit slower and a bit more sinister. The recording is from 1978 and includes the band’s original line-up of Biafra, East Bay Ray and 6025 on guitar, Klaus Flouride on bass, and Ted on drums. It’s a wonderful lo-fi punk slice of mud. There are a few tour dates planned for the beginning of October, but casual fans, if there is such a thing as a casual Dead Kennedys fan, should note the current line-up does not include Biafra. The album is out September 27 on <a href="http://manifesto.com/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Manifesto Records</a>.