SOV-018: Private GPS & Maps: Ditch Google and Apple - The Sovereign Computing Show
Release Date: 07/29/2025
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info_outlineYour location data is one of the most sensitive pieces of information you share, but are you trusting Google and Apple with every place you go? In this episode, Jordan Bravo and Stephen DeLorme explore private alternatives to mainstream navigation apps that don't track your movements. They cover privacy-focused options like Magic Earth and Organic Maps built on Open Street Maps, reveal how to use Waze on GrapheneOS without Google Play Services, and discuss the ultimate privacy solution: standalone Garmin GPS devices. Plus, news about Proton's new AI assistant Lumo and the company's concerning move away from Switzerland due to emerging surveillance laws.
Show Notes: https://atlbitlab.com/podcast/private-gps-and-maps
00:00 Why Privacy Laws Can't Be Trusted - Jordan's Opening Quote
00:10 Introduction and ATL BitLab Sponsorship
01:32 Welcome and Contact Information
02:27 News: Proton Announces Lumo AI Assistant
03:35 - Proton's Privacy Claims for Lumo
05:31 - Testing Lumo's Capabilities and Models
12:22 - Privacy Trade-offs vs Google/OpenAI
13:28 - Proton vs Big Tech Business Models
15:10 - Proton Moving Infrastructure Out of Switzerland
16:21 - Swiss Privacy Laws Under Threat
17:18 - Jordan's Take on Privacy Law Volatility
17:35 - European "Euro Stack" Initiative
20:27 Main Topic: Private GPS and Navigation
21:12 Introduction to Open Street Maps
22:00 Magic Earth: Premium Privacy Navigation App
23:50 - $0.99/year pricing model
24:48 - Jordan's experience with Magic Earth
26:20 - Search limitations vs Google Maps
29:22 Organic Maps: Free but Limited UX
30:40 Waze on GrapheneOS: Surprising Discovery
33:14 Garmin Standalone GPS: Ultimate Privacy
34:30 - Benefits of dedicated navigation device
37:24 - Garmin dash cam capabilities
38:22 - Garmin watches for privacy-conscious users
39:39 BTC Map: Bitcoin Business Directory
43:00 Mapbox for Developers
45:28 Boost Segment: Anonymous and Keith Sharp
47:17 Conclusion and Contact Information