#95: Breaking Barriers - Heather McLean (Hyphaea) on Women in Tattooing
Release Date: 09/10/2025
The Gypsy Life of Tattoo Artist Cindy Maxwell
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Pain management is a vital component of the tattooing process that can significantly influence both the client experience and the quality of the final artwork. As discussed in the podcast episode, effective pain management not only helps clients endure longer sessions but also enables tattoo artists to work more efficiently and produce superior results. This week's guest is renowned tattoo artist Cindy Maxwell, whose stunning, large-format, Japanese-inspired tattoos have captivated many for over 27 years. Hailing from San Francisco, Cindy shares insights into her tattooing journey, her passion...
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From South Africa to the global tattoo stage, Oliver Kenton didn’t follow a straight line — he followed geometry. In this episode of Chats & Tatts with host Aaron Della Vedova, we sit down with Oliver to talk about the long road behind his unmistakable geometric and ornamental tattoo work. What started as an obsession with pattern, structure, and precision became a way of making sense of movement, identity, and starting over in a new country. Oliver opens up about: Growing up in South Africa and how that environment shaped his eye and why geometry became his language when words...
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#102: Erotica, Leather, and Tattooing ft. "Savage" Sal Leon
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Sal Leon has developed a niche in traditional tattooing with an erotic gay flair, setting him apart from other artists in San Diego. This distinctiveness not only attracts a loyal client base but also fosters a sense of community among those who resonate with that particular style. Sal shares his journey through the tattooing world, highlighting the unique intersection of his identity as a gay man and his artistic expression through traditional tattooing with an erotic flair. This discussion with host Aaron Della Vedova opens up a broader conversation about the evolution of tattooing,...
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#101: Mushrooms, Mayans, and Masterpieces ft. Freddy Jay
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Freddy Jay’s journey into tattooing is a captivating story of unexpected beginnings and unwavering commitment. At the age of 19, he found himself at a crossroads in life, having once aspired to become a pilot due to his love for surfing and the freedom it represented. However, as he matured, he realized that the life of a pilot was not meant for him. Instead, he began to explore his creative side, which ultimately led him to the world of tattooing. In this episode of Chats and Tatts, host Aaron Della Vedova returns to his home studio, bringing a vibrant tribal energy to the conversation....
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#100: Tattoos and Sacred Geometry ft. Dillon Forte
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The belief in separation is a fundamental issue that contributes to ignorance and suffering. Recognizing our interconnectedness could lead to a more harmonious existence. This idea is deeply explored in the podcast episode featuring host Aaron Della Vedova and guest Dillon Forte, who discuss the implications of viewing reality through the lens of separation versus interconnectedness. Dillon is a renowned tattoo artist located in Austin, TX, and is credited with helping to launch the geometric tattoo movement in the U.S. in the early 2010s. The conversation blends art, spirituality, and the...
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#99: The Intimacy of Tebori with Horikei
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Tebori tattooing, a traditional Japanese hand-poked method, is more than just a technique; it embodies a philosophy that emphasizes a profound human connection and energy transfer between the tattoo artist and the client. Practiced for thousands of years, this method involves using a long stick with needles attached to the end, allowing the artist to create tattoos without the aid of machines. This simplicity lies at the heart of the Tebori experience, fostering a unique and intimate atmosphere during the tattooing process, and our guest today is one of the masters of this craft. ...
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#98: Queen of Neo Trad ft. Fiori Lorett
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Inspiration for creativity often arises from active engagement rather than a passive search for it. This concept is vividly illustrated in the conversation between host Aaron Della Vedova his guest Fior Lorett, a seasoned tattoo artist. Fiori emphasizes that her creative process is deeply intertwined with her daily artistic practice. She states, "the more I do, the more inspired I may be," highlighting that involvement in the creative process itself can ignite new ideas and motivation. Fiori shares insights into her unique neo-traditional style, which features an ornamental flair, and...
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#97: A Body of Work: The Matt Jordan Episode
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In this episode, host Aaron Della Vedova delves into the importance of creating art for oneself rather than for external approval, highlighting the personal connection and significance behind each piece of work. The discussion with New Zealand-based tattoo artist Matt Jordan emphasizes the value of handmade artistry in an increasingly digital world, celebrating the unique and analog nature of tattooing. Matt is a phenomenal tattoo artist whose work has left a lasting impression on many. "What are you going to do to separate yourself? What are you going to do so that you can look...
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#96: The Art of Surrender - Greyson Savo's Story of Recovery, Tattoos, and Redemption
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The journey of healing and transformation can be catalyzed by profound life experiences, such as accidents, which compel individuals to confront their past and redefine their identity. This theme is vividly illustrated in the story of Greyson Savo, who endured a life-altering accident that not only changed his physical state but also prompted deep introspection and a transformation of his identity, including the incredible covering of his scars by tattoo artist Patrick Sweeney ( https://www.instagram.com/patricksweeneyart ). In this episode of "Chats and Tatts," host Aaron Della Vedova...
info_outlineThe evolution of tattooing from a taboo, underground culture to a widely accepted art form has significantly transformed the industry's dynamics, impacting both artists and clients in various ways. In the early days of tattooing, particularly in the 1990s, the culture was largely underground and associated with rebellion.
In this episode of Chats and Tatts, host Aaron Della Vedova takes a unique approach by conducting the first-ever remote podcast on the show, reaching out to guests who are unable to join in person. He welcomes tattoo artist Heather McLean, known on Instagram as Hyphaea, who specializes in large-format, decorative, illustrative black and gray tattoos. Aaron encourages listeners to check out Heather’s stunning work in real-time while they listen. The conversation dives into the intricacies of tattoo artistry, the creative process, and the importance of maintaining a strong sense of self in the industry, despite external opinions.
The conversation also touches on the challenges and perceptions of women in the tattoo industry. Tune in for an engaging discussion that fuses creativity and personal insights that celebrate artistic expression and individuality.
Chat Breakdown:
03:37 Tattoo inspiration from grandpa.
10:01 Women in the tattooing industry.
15:18 Tattoo culture's underground origins.
19:52 Judgment among tattoo artists.
39:34 Emotional connection through tattooing.
49:03 Tattoo energy and emotional impact.
1:04:54 Nature as a spiritual escape.
01:10:19 Human perspective vs. AI creativity.
1:25:44 Nature conservation and personal responsibility.
Quotes:
"In 1999, a girl saying, I'm going to become a tattoo artist. She was like, that's the equivalent of saying I'm going to run away and join the circus."
"Being professional is great, but being fake is not something that I really have enjoyed ever."
"I have a goal, I'm here, I'm getting to here, either you're helping me get there or you're in the way."
"No one's asking me for my fucking opinion and I don't want to engage in a troll war online."
"Tattooing has turned from a thing where it used to be more about ego and now it's more about service."
"I've got a lot of extra energy today to share, because I'm feeling great. Your cup is very empty, and I swear to that process, they almost leave more filled up."
"I think it's okay to be like, yes, I'm a tattooer, but I'm also holding space for you when this difficult thing is happening."
"It's like being haunted almost. There are ghosts to every experience."
"The most enlightened people... just want to help. It's just completely egoless at that point."
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