Post Quantum Migration Struggles, AI Threats, and Modern Defenses - HD Moore, Ramin Farassat, Eyal Benishti, Daniel dos Santos, Bobby Ford - ESW #457
Enterprise Security Weekly (Audio)
Release Date: 05/04/2026
Enterprise Security Weekly (Audio)
Interview with Jon Hladik - ChatMate Imagine a user asks an LLM a question about a document. An attacker then gains an interactive prompt on the user’s chat session, enabling the attacker to instruct the AI assistant to take actions on behalf of the victim. That is exactly the capability researchers at Rubrik Zero Labs were able to demonstrate in a recent study designed to test the bounds of LLM security. Join Joe Hladik, Head of Rubrik Zero Labs, as he breaks down the discovery of "Remote Prompt Execution," a novel vulnerability class that enabled full takeovers of Microsoft Copilot...
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Interview 1: Robin Macfarlane from RRMac Associats The Mattress Money Principle: What a 50-Year Veteran Knows About System Fragility In this interview, Robin and Adrian discuss how technology has evolved over the past 50 years. Despite massive technological changes over the decades: the PC revolution, the Internet, smartphones, the Cloud, and now Generative AI - the majority of financial institutions still use mainframes and midrange machines. Why? We explore the reasons why older technology persists alongside the new and the lessons retiring technologists can pass on to new generations...
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Interview with Andrew Dunbar, CISO at Shopify After 13 years at Shopify, Andrew has some valuable insights to share on application security. In this episode, we discuss how AI has changed application security processes where bug bounty now fits in a post-Mythos, post-AI harness world. Andrew's Resources: Interview with Kern Smith Kern Smith, VP of Global Solutions at Zimperium, joins us to talk about the state of mobile security. This was a great conversation, talking about the history of mobile devices in the enterprise and how challenging securing mobile apps is in the age of vibe-coding....
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Segment 1 - Interview with O'Shea Bowens What do we really know about "AI Network Protocols"? Network security is about to get popular all over again. Generative AI caused a disruptive explosion across all of tech and every company’s roadmap. The move from chatbots to AI agents doubled down on that disruption. Now agents need to talk to each other? Boom: we have MCP. A2A. Universal Commerce Protocol. General purpose and specialized protocols for agent communication. What does this look like from the network perspective, though? O’Shea Bowen joins us to answer this question, and he thinks...
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Interview with Keith Hollender, CEO and Co-Founder of Arcova Why AI Security Is Becoming an Execution Problem, Not Just a Governance Problem As enterprises move from AI experimentation to adoption at scale, security leaders are under pressure to enable innovation without introducing unmanaged risk. The challenge is no longer whether organizations should pursue AI, but how they can govern it, secure it, and operationalize it in ways that stand up to real-world business and threat conditions. In this conversation, Keith Hollender discusses what Arcova is seeing across enterprise environments as...
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Interview with François Proulx from Boost Security Software Supply Chain Security: Build Pipeline (CI/CD) Exploitation Boost Security is the creator of some very popular build pipeline security tools, like Bagel and Poutine. Today, we discuss their latest tool, Smoked Meat. They describe it as "Like Metasploit, but for CI/CD pipelines". Segment Resources: Smoked Meat Smoked Meat Smoked with Guillaume and François Identiverse Interview with Dr. John Prichard from Radiant Logic The Three Identity Problem: Surviving Identity Security's Chaotic Era Identity security has entered its chaotic...
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Interview with Sandy Bird, co-founder of Sonrai Security In this week's interview, we kick off the conversation with how Sonrai's expertise in securing cloud identity permissions had the company well placed to address the explosion of AI agents and the clear risks they represented. On the surface, this looks like a cloud/hyperscaler permissions challenge, but it isn't that simple. As agents like Claude Code, Codex, and Hermes are connected to enterprise cloud agents, the risk spreads outside VPCs and onto endpoints. Check out the episode to learn more about some of the most common risks Sandy...
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Interview with Adriel Desautels - the pentest is broken Adriel joins us for a discussion on the state of penetration testing, why it hasn't done much to help security teams over the last 20 years, and why AI won't save it. Segment Resources: Topic: Why Meta is destroying its engineering organization The titular essay: A very interesting analysis of what's going on inside big tech companies as they try to dogfood their own AI hype and tokenmaxx themselves into oblivion. There have been a LOT of stories on this, but this is the most comprehensive and enlightening. A few more are linked...
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Interview with Ankita Gupta, CEO of Akto How to Navigate Shadow AI Risk in the enterprise This week, we discuss AI governance in the enterprise, starting with the nuts and bolts of how to discover and understand shadow AI. Following that, we dive into what security and tech leaders should do next with this information: apply guardrails? Limit vendor options? Ankita has a wealth of experience and anecdotes to share here, from years of working with customers and seeing all the unexpected things that happen with AI in today's workplace. Segment Resources: Website: Book a Free Demo: LinkedIn: ...
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Interview with Shiva Pillay from Veeam Safe AI at Scale AI investment is exploding, yet nearly 90% of enterprise initiatives fail because the data powering AI cannot be trusted. That’s the uncomfortable truth the industry is facing right now. Safe AI at scale requires more than just great models—it demands trusted, governed, and recoverable data. This segment is sponsored by Veeam. Visit to learn more about them! Segment resources: Topic: Sure, we know how initial access works, but what about lateral movement? A special topic segment where we're joined by Albert Estevez Polo, field CTO...
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Post-quantum cryptography (PQC) is quickly shifting from theory to inevitability. In this segment, Daniel dos Santos, VP of Research at Forescout, explains why PQC isn’t the most immediate threat today—but still demands early attention as standards solidify and timelines accelerate.
The discussion highlights overlooked risks beyond encrypted traffic, including digital signatures, firmware integrity, and blockchain systems. Daniel also emphasizes the real challenge: migration. While client-side adoption is already underway, organizations face major hurdles identifying and upgrading servers, legacy systems, and unmanaged assets like IoT and OT.
The bottom line: PQC migration is unavoidable. Starting early—especially with crypto inventory and planning—will make the transition far less painful.
RSAC Interview: Multi-Channel Impersonation: Why Legacy Controls Are Failing
As social engineering expands past just email to include text messages, chat apps, social platforms, and live video calls, traditional point solutions are struggling to keep up. In this segment, Bobby Ford explains how AI-powered impersonation and deepfake-enabled campaigns are exposing critical gaps in legacy defenses, and why organizations must evolve toward a unified social engineering defense platform that connects Digital Risk Management and Human Risk Management. He’ll outline what modern security programs need: real-time cross-channel visibility, behavior-driven detection, and strategies designed around how people actually communicate and make decisions today.
Visit https://securityweekly.com/doppelrsac to learn how Doppel helps organizations defend against AI-powered impersonation, phishing, and multi-channel social engineering threats with a modern Human Risk Management approach.
RSAC Interview: OT: Segmented Today, Breached Tomorrow
As the worlds of IT and OT converge, traditional network segmentation falls short, exposing risks in the critical environments that keep energy flowing and shelves stocked. Conventional security tools fail to identify these gaps, with serious repercussions for operators. At runZero, we empower defenders to win by default through comprehensive discovery, rapid detection of critical exposures, and unique segmentation analysis that does not depend on span ports, credentials, or on-device agents. runZero provides real-time insights into even the most sensitive environments — quickly, safely, and securely.
This segment is sponsored by runZero. Visit https://securityweekly.com/runzerorsac to learn more about them!
RSAC Interview: Securing the Next Billion Users: Why the Browser is the Front Line for Agentic AI
The enterprise is facing a fundamental shift: the next billion knowledge workers will not be human, they will be AI agents. While these agents offer exponential productivity, they operate at machine speed without human guardrails like MFA or skepticism, creating a massive security blind spot. Ramin Farassat discusses the "Agentic Paradox" and how a new approach to browser security is required to provide architectural immunity for the modern, hybrid workforce of both humans and agents.
Learn more about how Menlo Security protects both humans and agents at https://securityweekly.com/menlorsac.
RSAC Interview: The Threat Curve Has Reset: Why AI Made “Solved” Attacks Dangerous Again
AI hasn’t just evolved cyberattacks—it has reset the threat curve entirely. New research shows that even “solved” problems like phishing and business email compromise are immature and dangerous again, with attackers using AI and autonomous agents to launch hyper-personalized, multi-channel attacks at scale. This session explores what Phishing 3.0 really means for security leaders—and why defending trust now requires a fundamentally new approach.
This segment is sponsored by IRONSCALES. Visit https://securityweekly.com/IRONSCALESrsac to learn more about them!
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