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Sabbath & Rest: How To Sabbath Audaciously (An Interview with Hern Shung)

Dream Brave

Release Date: 04/03/2025

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Sabbath & Rest: How To Sabbath Audaciously (An Interview with Hern Shung) show art Sabbath & Rest: How To Sabbath Audaciously (An Interview with Hern Shung)

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Have you felt worn out or breathless in trying to pursue your goals? Have you ever wished you could just go away with Jesus and find rest for your soul? Does Sabbath seem like an impossibility? If those are the questions you've asked, you’ll enjoy this episode. In this episode, Dr. Wai Jia sat down with Ang Hern Shung, Pastoral Overseer at Trinity Methodist Church in Singapore, who talks candidly about his burnout and what he learnt from his recent Sabbatical.  Links: Order your copy of DREAM BRAVE at your favorite retailer here:  

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Have you felt worn out or breathless in trying to pursue your goals? Have you ever wished you could just go away with Jesus and find rest for your soul? Does Sabbath seem like an impossibility? If those are the questions you've asked, you’ll enjoy this episode.

In this episode, Dr. Wai Jia sat down with Ang Hern Shung, Pastoral Overseer at Trinity Methodist Church in Singapore, who talks candidly about his burnout and what he learnt from his recent Sabbatical. 

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