Purpose & Desire: Why You Need Both to Understand Your Calling
Release Date: 09/12/2025
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Summary In this conversation, we engage with Bill Kurtz and Hilary Oswald to explore two distinct educational approaches shaped by faith and community. Bill Kurtz, founder of the , shares his journey from Wall Street to education, emphasizing the importance of human dignity and the belief that every child can achieve greatness. Hilary Oswald, principal at , discusses the principles of classical education and the significance of community in shaping students' lives. Both educators highlight the challenges and opportunities in the current educational landscape, offering insights into...
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Summary In this conversation, we get to hear from 2 people who have spent their career faithfully serving in public education. Irvin Scott emphasizes the critical role of teachers in society and the importance of showing appreciation for their hard work, and encourages listeners to reflect on their gratitude towards educators and highlights the challenges they face in their profession. And Jim McKenney shares some insights of his time in public education, how he has navigated the challenges faithfully with the Lord and with others. Wherever you’re listening—, ,...
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We Won An Award!
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Summary Exclusive sneak peak into our Women, Work, & Calling 2025 keynote speaker's talk: Reverend Dr. Nicole Massey-Martin COO at Christianity Today. Dr. Martin joins us today to discuss her journey as a leader, and calls us to to crucify our ministry idols and nail our outdated leadership practices to the cross. As she shares the inspiration for her new book, Nailing It: Why Successful Leadership Demands Suffering and Surrender, Dr. Martin emphasizes the need for cruciform leadership, which and highlights the vital role women play in leadership and the workplace. Nicole shares...
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In this episode of the Faith and Work podcast, host Joanna Meyer engages with Tracey Gee, author and consultant, to explore the intricate relationship between purpose, desire, and calling. They discuss the challenges of discerning one's calling, especially in the context of faith, and how desire plays a crucial role in this process. Tracey shares her personal journey of navigating career transitions and the importance of recognizing and embracing one's desires. The conversation also touches on gender perspectives regarding desire, the consequences of ignoring it, and practical steps to identify and pursue one's desires. Ultimately, they emphasize the significance of engaging with disappointment and the treasure hidden within our lives as we seek to align our work with our calling.
Wherever you’re listening—Spotify, Apple, or YouTube—subscribing, rating, and reviewing the show helps others discover what we’re doing here. It’s a small way to support the mission—and it means a lot to us.
HIGHLIGHTS
RESOURCES
- Download the episode transcript here
- Book Recommendation: Parker Palmer, Let Your Life Speak: Listening for the Voice of Vocation
- “The place God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world’s deep hunger meet.” ― Frederick Buechner, Wishful Thinking: A Seeker's ABC
- Attend Women, Work, & Calling Annual Event to hear more from Tracey Gee
- Purchase The Magic of Knowing What You Want
- Download our Getting Clear about Calling Group Discussion Guide
- Listen to Part 1 and Part 2 of our Faith & Work episodes: What Does It Mean To Be Called?