78: Compensation in Family Business: Challenges and Strategies
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Host Aileen Miziolek speaks with Gerry Meyer about navigating the complexities of compensation in family enterprises through the lens of the three-circle model. Their conversation explores the tension between fairness and equality, the importance of role-based pay and formal policies, and how remuneration differs across the business, ownership and family systems. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of . Guest bio Gerry has over 40 years of experience in all aspects...
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77: Rediscovering the Leader Beneath the Stewardship
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Host Steve Legler speaks with Executive Coach Jill Nykoliation ahead of her Keynote set for Family Enterprise Canada's upcoming Symposium in Vancouver, taking place May 25-27, 2026. The discussion covers some of the limits of a stewardship mentality, and delves into helping each family member discover their own innate drivers and talents to use in service of the family enterprise All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of . Guest bio Jill Nykoliation is an award-winning...
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76: Love, Wisdom, Money
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Host Steve Legler speaks with Buddy Thomas, the author of Love, Wisdom, Money: The Family Fiduciary's Guide to Generative Wealth. Together, they discuss the concept of a ‘Family Fiduciary’ and the importance of putting those three elements—Love, Wisdom and Money—in the right order. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of . Guest bio Buddy Thomas is the founder of Superior Planning – Family Office, specializing in customized family wealth and relationship...
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75: Cognitive Optimization for Leadership
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In this episode, host Aileen Miziolek speaks with Celina Caesar-Chavannes about why ‘change’ can feel so difficult in family businesses. Celina explains, in simple terms, how our brains get used to certain ways of thinking and reacting—and how that affects family relationships and decision-making. She also offers practical advice and resources to help families and professionals better navigate change and work together more effectively. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent...
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74: The Best of 2025 (A Retrospective)
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Regular hosts Aileen Miziolek and Steve Legler discuss some of their favourite episodes and insights from 2025's episodes of the Let's Talk Family Enterprise podcast. Hear them share their greatest takeaways and bring back good memories while encouraging listeners to subscribe for more! All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of . Key Takeaways [0:26] Steve Legler and Aileen Miziolek come together for a year-end review for the Let’s Talk Family Enterprise podcast....
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73: Understanding ADHD in Family Enterprises
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Host Aileen Miziolek speaks with Dr. Tamara Rosier about how ADHD can show up in adults and the common misconceptions that can shape family enterprise dynamics. They explore how traits such as emotional dysregulation, risk-taking and divergent thinking influence communication, trust and generational roles within enterprising families. Dr. Rosier also shares practical ways to design systems that support neurodivergent minds, and highlights the value of coaching and self-awareness in helping families work more effectively together. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this...
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72: Navigating Complexity in Enterprising Families
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Host Steve Legler speaks with Michelle Osry about how families need to deal with both complicated issues that require specific solutions, as well as complex challenges that require different skills to navigate to help the family make progress. They discuss the challenges in getting both advisors and families to understand these distinctions and find ways to work on having each family's best outcome emerge from co-creation. Guest bio Michelle Osry works with family enterprises and offices on governance and generational transition. She draws from a broad experience and range of disciplines and...
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71: Parenting Adult Children in Family Business
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Aileen Miziolek hosts an in-depth conversation with Alyson Schafer, an acclaimed author and Adlerian family counsellor. In this thoughtful 30-minute episode, they touch on issues around over- and under-functioning children, why the notion of fair vs. equal in childhood can impact long-term family business dynamics, and how tackling the unique challenges of enterprising families requires maturity, open-mindedness and an understanding that sometimes personal responsibility is the only path forward. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the...
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70: How to NOT Ruin Your Kids With Money
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Steve Legler speaks with U.S. estate planning attorney Mark Shiller about his book, How to NOT Ruin Your Kids With Money: Navigating the Challenges of Transitioning Wealth in Families. Together, they discuss issues around character, competence, and capacity, the maturation process, and the uniqueness of each family member, with lots of useful tidbits for parents and rising generation family members along the way. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of . Guest bio...
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69: The Skilled Facilitator
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In this episode, Aileen Miziolek speaks with renowned facilitator and author Roger Schwarz about the critical roles facilitators and consultants play—especially in complex systems like family enterprises. Roger explores how mutual learning, clear boundaries and transparency can elevate the value professionals bring to their clients, offering practical insights and tools for navigating advisory roles with compassion and clarity. All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of ....
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Welcome to Let’s Talk Family Enterprise, a podcast that explores the ideas, concepts, and models that best serve Family Enterprise Advisors in supporting their clients.
All views, information, and opinions expressed during this podcast are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily represent those of Family Enterprise Canada.
Host Steve Legler speaks with Kristin Keffeler about her recent book, The Myth of the Silver Spoon: Navigating Family Wealth & Creating an Impactful Life. They discuss how advisors to enterprising families and families of wealth can become resources to the rising generation of these families as they face challenges that are typically overlooked by society.
If you enjoy this episode and want to hear more from Kristin, don’t miss out on her presentation at Symposium 2023 in Ottawa, May 29 – 31.
Guest bio
Kristin Keffeler, MSM, MAPP
Kristin is a thought leader, speaker, and consultant at the forefront of a global shift in family wealth advising, known as Wealth 3.0. She guides affluent and enterprising families, rising gen, and the professionals who support them in embracing the positive power of wealth and doing the “inner work of money.”
You can learn more about Kristin Keffeler on LinkedIn and the Illumination360 website.
Key Takeaways
[:26] Steve Legler welcomes today’s guest Kristin Keffeler and asks her to talk a little bit about the impact her peak human performance and positive psychology background have had on her new book.
[9:08] Kristin shares her perspective on the myth of the silver spoon.
[12:20] Clearing the clutter is an analogy Kristin uses to give perspective to the rising generation. She breaks down the four kinds of clutter.
[15:30] Budgeting is empowering, even in a situation of plenty, Kristin explains why.
[18:37] The identity factors that made some rising gens systematically thrive.
[20:45] Kristin shares her tips for advisors to help families lay good foundations.
[25:15] Having some “skin the game” in their own life is a critical part of skill building for younger generations.
[26:50] Being born into wealth shouldn’t mean you are forced into any specific path in life.
[30:36] Kristin shares her book recommendation and a piece of advice for advisors.
[34:27] Steve thanks Kristin for sharing so much of her learnings and signs off until next month.
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Mentioned in this episode
The Let’s Talk Family Enterprise podcast is brought to you by Family Enterprise Canada.
The Myth Of The Silver Spoon: Navigating Family Wealth & Creating an Impactful Life, by Kristin Keffeler
Good Inside: Become The Parent You Want To Be, by Dr. Becky Kennedy
More about Family Enterprise Canada