Kyle Busch Lost $8.5M... But It's Not What You Think (Ep. 327)
Farming Without the Bank Podcast
Release Date: 11/07/2025
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info_outlineKyle Busch just sued Pacific Life Insurance for $8.58 million, claiming he was misled by an Indexed Universal Life (IUL) policy. But what if this high-profile case proves everything Infinite Banking practitioners have warned about for years?
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In this episode of Without the Bank, Mary Jo breaks down the Kyle Busch life insurance lawsuit, exposing how IULs are often mis-sold and why dividend-paying whole life insurance is still the gold standard for Infinite Banking.
She dives into:
◦ Why IULs, VULs, and ULs collapse faster than you think
◦ The truth behind “guaranteed” returns and hidden policy fees
◦ What Nelson Nash really meant by “dividend-paying whole life”
◦ How to read your own in-force illustration and spot red flags
If you own an Indexed Universal Life policy, or are thinking of buying one, this episode could save you thousands.
Audio Podcast Episodes
Farming Without The Bank Ep. 327a
Without The Bank Ep. 242a
Key Takeaways
◦ Kyle Busch’s lawsuit highlights systemic problems in how IULs are sold.
◦ Whole life and IUL are not the same thing.
◦ Infinite Banking only works with dividend-paying whole life, not market-tied policies.
◦ Always request an in-force illustration at 4% to test your policy’s strength.
◦ Education beats marketing. Understand what you’re buying before you sign.
Chapters
00:00 – The Problem with Bad Insurance Sales
01:21 – Kyle Busch’s $8.5M IUL Lawsuit Explained
03:34 – IUL vs Whole Life: What Agents Don’t Tell You
06:03 – Hidden Fees, Failing Policies, and False Promises
08:26 – Why This Case Proves Infinite Banking Works
12:19 – The Real Lesson from Becoming Your Own Banker
17:16 – How to Check (and Fix) Your Own Life Insurance
(Timestamps are from the video version. Audio-only edits are always shorter since they have had more fluff removed, so the timestamps are not accurate to this version.)
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