212. Reinventing Life After Federal Service: Dr. Nola Haynes on Owning the Pivot
FedUpward Podcast - Tips for Federal Government Employees
Release Date: 07/25/2025
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info_outline“Do that thing you’ve always wanted to do.”
In this inspiring episode of the Fed Upward Podcast, host Love Rutledge sits down with returning guest Dr. Nola Haynes—a longtime federal employee, academic, and media voice—to discuss how federal employees can navigate uncertain times, build a personal brand, and thrive in a post-DEI backlash environment.
Whether you're stepping out of public service, considering your next pivot, or just curious how to carry your mission into a new space, Dr. Haynes offers candid advice and deep wisdom—along with a reminder to always show up fabulous. ✨
Dr. Haynes joined the FedUpward Podcast during the annual conference hosted by Globally, a nonprofit organization dedicated to cultivating communities of emerging leaders who are committed to addressing the most pressing global challenges of our time.
00:00 – Intro
00:50 – Dr. Nola Haynes on career pivots and the anti-DEI backlash
02:54 – Advice for Feds considering what's next: "Take a breath, then take the leap"
04:57 – Bridging the gap between academia and federal service
08:17 – Developing a personal brand: femininity as power, not a liability
11:17 – Why showing up authentically leaves a lasting impression
13:21 – Where to follow Dr. Haynes and her new projects
15:56 – Final thoughts: This moment of chaos is your moment of opportunity
Helpful Resources:
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Connect with Dr. Nola Haynes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-nola-haynes-50050158/
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IG: @nolahaynes
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Substack: https://nolahaynes1.substack.com/
- Globally: https://globally.org/
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Work with Love: www.fedupwardcoaching.com
Connect with Love:
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LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/love-rutledge
Facebook: facebook.com/fedupward