The FVS Valuation Podcast
This interview was recorded on 10/28/2025 at the AICPA FVS Conference. Economic issues discussed are still relevant as of the publish date: 11/20/2025 On this episode we hear from Carla Nunes and Jim Harrington from Kroll right after their session at the 2025 AICPA FVS Conference on October 28 to discuss the post-election economic landscape focusing on tariffs, fiscal stimulus, and their impact on valuations and the cost of capital. Our guests highlight how recent government policies, trade uncertainties, and the rise of AI are shaping market sentiment, interest rates, and equity risk...
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Private credit is one of the fastest-growing areas in alternative investments, driven by tighter traditional lending and demand for higher yields. But its rise brings valuation challenges—limited transparency, non-standard pricing, and infrequent market activity. How can these assets be accurately valued? What risks might be overlooked? And how should investors assess performance and liquidity? Hear from a specialist tackling these questions, and explore AICPA resources to enhance your valuation analysis. Key takeaways • Industry economics and motivations of stakeholders...
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In this episode, host Alex Partin and guests Serena Morones, David Harkins, and Kyle Wolf each bring their unique perspectives on Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) and their critical role in succession planning for privately held businesses. The conversation explores how ESOPs offer a compelling alternative to traditional exit strategies. The panel brings together perspectives from business valuation experts and those with firsthand experience in ESOP-owned firms, offering practical insights for business owners considering this path. Key Takeaways: ESOPs as a Succession Tool:...
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In this episode, host Greg Saunders is joined by a diverse panel of guests for a candid discussion on business valuation practices and regional nuances. The panel explores key topics including: Tax effecting PTEs post-TCJA Using the guideline transaction method effectively Managing timing mismatches in real estate appraisals Aligning valuation and transfer dates Differentiating personal vs. enterprise goodwill Whether you're a seasoned valuation professional or an emerging professional, this episode offers practical insights and real-world perspectives to help navigate common valuation...
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Josh Shilts interviews estate and tax attorney, Bo Trudeau, about formula transfer clauses for estate and gift tax planning. They discuss how these clauses can help reduce tax risk for transfers of hard-to-value assets, review key cases such as Wandry and Procter, and clarify the differences between the various types of formula transfer clauses. The episode highlights the importance of establishing intent, consistent documentation, and timely valuations, and also provides specific strategies to bolster formula transfers against challenges from the IRS. Key takeaways include: ...
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In today’s uncertain market with high capital costs and changing investor demands, startup valuation requires both expertise and adaptability. Valuation specialists Ross McSwain and Charles Gallman discuss how economic challenges are shaping current models and highlight the growing importance of founder vision and qualitative factors. They outline cost, market, and income approaches for different growth stages, referencing AICPA guides and practical experience, and stress the need to align methods with milestones and capital structure. Key takeaways Valuation shifts as startups grow...
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FVS Valuation subject matter experts Josh Shilts and Dave Consigli address current challenges encountered by professionals conducting valuations, emphasizing that these competencies remain fundamental — mirroring those required during the Covid period. Their discussion highlights several important insights: Embracing Economic Volatility: Ongoing economic uncertainty has become a constant factor, making adaptability essential for valuation professionals. Assessing Client Risk Management: It is critical to evaluate how clients are managing financial, operational, and strategic risks. The...
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AI is becoming increasingly important in managing, analyzing, and optimizing investments and influencing how we navigate the interdependencies of capital and data flows, reporting, and legal and regulatory requirements in the private markets. This discussion between experts Andreas Dal Santo of BlueVal, Chandu Chilakapati of Aprio, and Prof. Michael Weinberg of Columbia Business School – practicing experts in finance, investment, and valuation - highlights many of the benefits, challenges, and future potential of AI in the world of alternative investments and financial instrument...
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Dave and Lisa explore the intricacies of the market approach highlighting the importance of using reliable market data and multiple valuation approaches to achieve accurate results. They discuss how risk factors and company size influence valuation multiples and provide practical tips for applying these concepts in real-world scenarios. Key takeaways include: Combining income, market, and asset approaches helps mitigate the risk of skewed valuation results Understanding and adjusting for risk factors, such as customer and supplier risks, is crucial in determining accurate valuation multiples....
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This is a refreshed version of an episode from July 2021. Some voice distortion may be present. Please scroll down to find links to essential resources that have been developed since the original publish date. In this episode, we explore the many paths available to accounting and finance majors who aspire to work in forensics and valuation services particularly as an expert witness. Dean Driskell tells his journey as a forensic accounting and valuation professional. He and host, Josh Shilts, share pivotal moments that have defined their careers and the skills they consider essential for...
info_outlineThis is the 2nd of a two-episode interview with Rod Burkert who is a valuation practice coach and advisor. If you have not listened to Part 1 – consider listening now . Rod views AI as a tool, and like how professionals learned to use Excel and Word, he encourages a mindset shift to familiarize oneself with AI and its potential applications in business valuation.
- How to prompt so AI understands where you are coming from and gives you better results
- Consumers' expectations for professionals to incorporate AI into their practices and use AI to save time and money
- AI-related tools to help your staff up the learning curve.
- Practical examples of how to use AI to assist with marketing and industry knowledge
Guest: Rod Burkert, CPA/ABV, Burkert Valuation Advisors
Host: Josh Shilts, CPA/ABV/CFF/CGMA, Shilts CPA
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Rod's prompt
CONTEXT = I am a Certified Public Accountant and also hold these business valuation credential(s): [LIST CREDENTIALS]. My entire professional practice has been devoted to providing business valuations for my [ADD TYPES OF CLIENTS]. I also [ADD OTHER PROFESSIONAL ACTIVITIES (e.g., write and speak extensively about business valuations)].
SERVICE = A business valuation is a specific set of approaches, methods, and procedures used to estimate the economic value of a business or an owner's interest in a business. During the valuation process, all areas of a business are analyzed to determine its worth. A business valuation can be used for a variety of purposes, including income tax, gift, and estate taxes; financial reporting; employee stock ownership plans; shareholder buy-ins and buy-outs; and divorce. Business owners or their professional advisors turn to valuation professionals for an independent estimate of value of a business. The performance of business valuations is governed by professional standards set by membership organizations that issue valuation credentials. Valuation professionals also look to government regulations (e.g., Internal Revenue Service Revenue Ruling 59-60), case law, and valuation related publications for guidance.
CLIENTS = My clients are [NAME THE TYPES OF CLIENTS YOU SERVE]. All of my clients’ businesses are [NAME THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES] (e.g., privately held companies and generally have revenues of $5 million to $50 million). I specialize in business valuations of [NAME TYPE OF VALATIONS YOU DO] (e.g., manufacturers and distributors, shareholder disputes).
Once the prompts have been added to the AI platform you can then ask the AI the following before giving it the task:
- You don’t have to repeat it back, but do you understand all that I have written so far?
- Before I give you my task, do you have any questions about who I am or what I do?
- TASK = [ ]