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Using AI in Your Valuation Practice – Part 2

The FVS Valuation Podcast

Release Date: 10/17/2024

Financial Instrument Valuation Series:  SAFEs, Convertible Notes, and Embedded Derivatives show art Financial Instrument Valuation Series: SAFEs, Convertible Notes, and Embedded Derivatives

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Simple Agreement for Future Equity (SAFEs), convertible notes, and embedded derivatives are among financial instruments which feature optionality, which can obscure confidence in the expected value of the associated future economic benefits.  Published guidance is limited, and adding to the complexity, some alternative investment transactions have optionality features lurking within, dormant, and not readily apparent.  This presents a wrinkle for practitioners who try to value assets which could morph into something else tomorrow.  Listen to how specialists in this area approach...

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Women Leaders in Business Valuation show art Women Leaders in Business Valuation

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To celebrate Women's History Month, we are excited to share a special episode for our FVS Valuation podcast which explores the diverse backgrounds of several business valuation leaders, their paths into a career in business valuation, and their journeys to becoming experts in the field.  The conversation highlights the many routes that can lead to success in business valuation, including  The significance of obtaining the Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV) credential and how it has impacted their careers Their strategies for achieving a healthy work-life balance while excelling...

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Transparency in Private Market Valuations show art Transparency in Private Market Valuations

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In early 2025, the new US administration has been implementing changes which could affect regulatory oversight in private markets and alternative investments. Transparency in asset valuation is vital, especially where regulation is limited. Inadequate valuations or outdated financial reports can negatively impact investor decisions, leading to market inefficiencies and reduced confidence. Our presenter, an expert in private market valuation, provides insights and recommendations on managing these issues.  Key takeaways:  Industrywide benefits of enhanced transparency How to verify...

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Reconciling Discount Rates for Intangible Asset Valuation in PPAs show art Reconciling Discount Rates for Intangible Asset Valuation in PPAs

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Maryellen and Ross delve into the subjectivity and controversy surrounding discount rates, the importance of understanding the asset and forecast inputs, and the application of market participant assumptions.  Including these key takeaways: Subjectivity in Discount Rates: Understanding the significant subjectivity and controversy in determining discount rates. Qualitative Assessments: The role of qualitative assessments in aligning discount rates with associated risks. Resources and Guides: Utilizing available resources to enhance valuation analyses. Continue reading to learn about key...

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Valuation Considerations in Equity Compensation show art Valuation Considerations in Equity Compensation

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Derivatives such as options have been used to reward employees for many years, and executive pay packages often include features of complex derivative securities such as options and restricted stock with vesting schedules based on various contingencies.  Join us for a deeper look of what’s “under the hood” in the relevant valuation techniques such as lattice models and Monte Carlo simulation, and how these relate to regulations such as ASC 718 and the new Pay versus Performance (“PvP”) requirements for proxy statements.  •    Relevance of Internal Revenue Code...

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M&A vs Equity Analysis (revisit) show art M&A vs Equity Analysis (revisit)

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This is a refreshed version of an episode from October 2022. Professor Matthew Shaffer shares his journey into the field of accounting and his interest in corporate governance, valuation, and the market for corporate control. His article, "Why Value the Enterprise and Route to the Equity," explores the rationale behind using enterprise value evaluations in M&A settings instead of directly valuing equity. Josh and Matt discuss:   Accounting as a fundamental framework for understanding business activities and market movements. Impact of Non-Recurring Items on Valuation Methods: Future...

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Estate Planning – Anticipating the Change in 2025 show art Estate Planning – Anticipating the Change in 2025

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Plan early! The Tax Cut and Jobs Act (TCJA) significantly increased the estate tax exemption and there is uncertainty around whether it will be extended or modified. It's recommended to plan early and not wait until the last minute to ensure all necessary legal and valuation work can be completed in time. Greg Saunders and Lisa Cribben explore the complexities of estate planning and valuation, emphasizing the importance of early and continuous planning. They discuss various strategies to manage and reduce estate taxes, the critical role of valuation appraisers, and the potential impact of...

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Valuation Case Law Update show art Valuation Case Law Update

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In this interview, Dave and Natalya discuss several significant court cases related to gift and estate tax valuations, ESOPs, and control issues in business valuations.  Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the need for careful planning and the potential implications of court decisions on future valuation practices: Controversial Connolly Case which included life insurance proceeds in the value of a company for estate tax purposes Importance of Proper Valuation Methods: The discussion emphasized the need for accurate and appropriate valuation methods, particularly in ESOP cases...

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Macroeconomic Update 2024 - Cost of Capital & Valuation Impact show art Macroeconomic Update 2024 - Cost of Capital & Valuation Impact

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This interview was recorded on 10/28/24 at the AICPA-CIMA Forensic and Valuation Services Conference prior to the presidential election on 11/5.  Economic issues discussed are still relevant as of the publish date11/21/24 Don’t miss this deep dive into the cost of capital and its implications for businesses and investors Nunes and Harrington, both from Kroll, share a macroeconomic update with the FVS podcast, focusing on the cost of capital and its valuation impact. The U.S. economy is performing better than expected, avoiding a recession and potentially achieving a soft landing, with...

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Discounted Cash Flows with Roger Grabowski (revisit) show art Discounted Cash Flows with Roger Grabowski (revisit)

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This is a refreshed version of an episode from June 2022. Roger Grabowski has made numerous contributions to the field of valuation, particularly in forecasting cash flows using the discounted cash flow method (DCF). Roger speaks with Josh about the evolution of valuation practices and emphasizes the importance of understanding historical growth and differentiating between organic growth and growth through acquisitions. Topics discussed include: The importance of learning about the company and its management Thank you, Shannon Pratt - writing and presenting technical topics in an accessible...

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This is the 2nd of a two-episode interview with Rod Burkert who is a valuation practice coach and advisor. If you have not listened to Part 1 – consider listening now .  Rod views AI as a tool, and like how professionals learned to use Excel and Word, he encourages a mindset shift to familiarize oneself with AI and its potential applications in business valuation. 

  • How to prompt so AI understands where you are coming from and gives you better results
  • Consumers' expectations for professionals to incorporate AI into their practices and use AI to save time and money
  • AI-related tools to help your staff up the learning curve.  
  • Practical examples of how to use AI to assist with marketing and industry knowledge

Guest:  Rod Burkert, CPA/ABV, Burkert Valuation Advisors
Host: Josh Shilts, CPA/ABV/CFF/CGMA, Shilts CPA

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Rod's prompt - mentioned in the episode (scroll to the bottom of the show notes)

Oct. 28-30 in Dallas, The 2024 AICPA-CIMA Forensic and Valuation Services Conference    To register click here  Attend in person or virtually

AICPA Valuation Services home page 

FVS Section members have access to exclusive content and 16 credits of complimentary CPE  If you’re not a member, consider joining this active community of your FVS peers. Visit us online,

LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS:

Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic

Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic

Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic

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Rod's prompt

CONTEXT = I am a Certified Public Accountant and also hold these business valuation credential(s): [LIST CREDENTIALS]. My entire professional practice has been devoted to providing business valuations for my [ADD TYPES OF CLIENTS]. I also [ADD OTHER PROFESSIONAL ACTIVITIES (e.g., write and speak extensively about business valuations)]. 

SERVICE = A business valuation is a specific set of approaches, methods, and procedures used to estimate the economic value of a business or an owner's interest in a business. During the valuation process, all areas of a business are analyzed to determine its worth. A business valuation can be used for a variety of purposes, including income tax, gift, and estate taxes; financial reporting; employee stock ownership plans; shareholder buy-ins and buy-outs; and divorce. Business owners or their professional advisors turn to valuation professionals for an independent estimate of value of a business. The performance of business valuations is governed by professional standards set by membership organizations that issue valuation credentials. Valuation professionals also look to government regulations (e.g., Internal Revenue Service Revenue Ruling 59-60), case law, and valuation related publications for guidance.

CLIENTS = My clients are [NAME THE TYPES OF CLIENTS YOU SERVE]. All of my clients’ businesses are [NAME THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES] (e.g., privately held companies and generally have revenues of $5 million to $50 million). I specialize in business valuations of [NAME TYPE OF VALATIONS YOU DO] (e.g., manufacturers and distributors, shareholder disputes).

Once the prompts have been added to the AI platform you can then ask the AI the following before giving it the task:

  1. You don’t have to repeat it back, but do you understand all that I have written so far?
  2. Before I give you my task, do you have any questions about who I am or what I do?
  3. TASK = [   ]