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Leadership, Quality, and the Future of Hospice: Guests Chris Comeaux and Cordt Kassner

GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

Release Date: 03/05/2026

How can We Improve Surgery for Older Adults? Unpacking the ACS Geriatric Surgery Verification Program show art How can We Improve Surgery for Older Adults? Unpacking the ACS Geriatric Surgery Verification Program

GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

In 2019, the American College of Surgeons launched the Geriatric Surgery Verification (GSV) Program to provide evidence-based standards hospitals could adopt to optimize surgical care for older adults. As a surgical resident, I didn't think much about what that meant until I rotated through a GSV-verified hospital and gained firsthand experience. The structure built into the EMR prompted me to go beyond the usual risks and benefits of surgery and prioritize what matters most to patients, including what they hope surgery will accomplish, before booking an operation. It ultimately changed how I...

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Can We Prevent Cognitive Decline in Aging? Multi-Domain Trials with Laura Baker and Ellen Binder show art Can We Prevent Cognitive Decline in Aging? Multi-Domain Trials with Laura Baker and Ellen Binder

GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

Can we prevent age-related cognitive decline, and perhaps even head off Alzheimer’s disease and related dementias before they start? Pharmaceutical companies are spending billions searching for a magic bullet pill to answer that question. But what if the solution requires more than a single drug? What if real prevention demands a multi-domain approach that combines targeted diet, exercise, social engagement, and vascular risk factor management among other things? On today’s episode, we explore multi-domain interventions for cognitive risk reduction with two leading experts: Laura D....

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When to Start or Stop Statins in Older Adults:  Tim Anderson, Rita Redberg, Mike Rich show art When to Start or Stop Statins in Older Adults: Tim Anderson, Rita Redberg, Mike Rich

GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

In 1987, lovastatin became the first FDA-approved statin in the United States. Four decades later, statins are among the most frequently prescribed medications nationwide, with atorvastatin topping the overall list. Now, updated guidelines have expanded statin eligibility to cover nearly every older adult. On today’s episode, we are joined by experts Tim Anderson, Rita Redberg, and Mike Rich to discuss when to start, and when to stop, statin therapy in older adults. Topics we talk about on starting and stopping statins in older adults include: Updates and changes for statin use in older...

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Hot New Drugs in Palliative Care: Max Stevenson, Alex McPherson, and Nisha Iyer show art Hot New Drugs in Palliative Care: Max Stevenson, Alex McPherson, and Nisha Iyer

GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

When you think of palliative care pharmacotherapy, you probably think about the tried-and-true mainstays of our field like morphine, haloperidol, and senna. But the landscape of palliative symptom management is rapidly evolving, with hot new drug classes and rediscovered old-school opioids (and not just buprenorphine!) On today’s episode of the GeriPal Podcast, we sit down with three expert palliative care clinical pharmacists, Max Stevenson, Alex McPherson, and Nisha Iyer, to talk about 5 hot new drugs (or rediscovered): Suzetrigine: It works for bunions (at least as well as opioids,...

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Interactive Maps of Aging: Judy Salerno and Lindsay Goldman show art Interactive Maps of Aging: Judy Salerno and Lindsay Goldman

GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

Love the story Judy Solerno tells at the start of this podcast. The story is about how mapped out cases of Cholera in London in the year 1854.  He was able to identify a concentration of cases near a neighborhood water pump.  Simply removing the handle from the pump halted the outbreak.  This is one of the earliest recorded uses of maps for public health purposes. Our guests today, Judy Salerno (President Emeritus of the ) and Lindsay Goldman (CEO of ) have done some wonderful work creating detailed, in-depth, interactive maps of aging in New York City. Go to and try it...

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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

Just in time for respiratory virus season, this episode of the podcast breaks down essential vaccine guidance for older adults. From flu, COVID-19, and RSV to an added bonus deep dive into shingles, we cover everything you need to know to protect older adults this season. Our expert guests include: Kenneth Schmader, MD: A geriatrician and vaccine researcher who helped develop the zoster vaccine. Ken serves on the Working Groups for the Herpes Zoster, Influenza, COVID-19, RSV and General Adult Immunization Guidelines for the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) Advisory Committee on...

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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

Difficulty managing money is often one of the earliest signs of Alzheimer's disease and related dementias, frequently appearing years before an official diagnosis. This loss of financial capacity leaves individuals vulnerable to costly mistakes and exploitation, threatening the financial security and quality of life of entire families. In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Lauren Hersch Nicholas, Dr. Duke Han, and Dr. Jason Karlawish to examine the intersection of cognitive decline, financial decision-making, and patient protection. We covered a lot of topics, including these key ones: The...

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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

GLP-1 receptor agonists (the "Ozempics of the world") have been a truly revolutionary pharmacological advance in modern medicine. In randomized controlled trials (RCTs), these agents have been shown to do much more than just reduce weight, including significantly reducing cardiovascular events, lowering all-cause mortality in patients with type 2 diabetes, and even slowing the progression of chronic kidney disease. But as we see their use rapidly expand among older adults, we have to ask: at what cost? In geriatrics, weight loss is rarely simple. In older bodies, GLP1s carry increased risks,...

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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

As Diane Meier remarks to start today’s podcast, palliative care has come a long way from the days when we were the “brink of death” consult. We’re seeing patients earlier and earlier in the course of illness.  In fact, the for specialist palliative care is arguably stronger in the outpatient setting than the inpatient setting. In some ways, as Eric remarked, we are a victim of our own success. We’ve pushed on the boundaries of seeing patients earlier in the course of illness, we’ve demonstrated remarkable value to our colleagues and health systems: now they want us to see...

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LATE vs Alzheimer’s: Biomarkers, Mixed Dementia, and Clinical Realities with Nate Chin & Sterling Johnson show art LATE vs Alzheimer’s: Biomarkers, Mixed Dementia, and Clinical Realities with Nate Chin & Sterling Johnson

GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast

Up until just a couple years ago, an 85-year-old patient presenting with gradual, amnestic memory loss was almost automatically presumed to have Alzheimer’s disease. However, new biomakers and the recognition of conditions like Limbic-predominant age-related TDP-43 encephalopathy (LATE) are reshaping our understanding of cognitive decline in older adults. It’s looking more clear that pure Alzheimers dementia is rare in older adults, and co-occurring pathologies that may include Alzheimer's, LATE, Lewy Body, and vascular neuropatholigies, are the rule rather than the exception.  In...

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Today we’re doing something different. Today, dear listeners, you get two podcasts for the price of one! (OK, our podcasts are both free, but you get the idea).

We’re joined today by Chris Comeaux, host of TCN Talks, a podcast about leadership, strategy, innovation, and the future of serious illness care, and author of The Anatomy of Leadership. We are also joined by TCN Talks’ frequent guest host Cordt Kassner, CEO of Hospice Analytics, which provides in depth data on hospice quality, utilization, and access, and publisher of Hospice and Palliative Care Today, a daily email about the hottest stories and news in the field.

This is an “ask us anything” style podcast in which we get to ask each other questions.  Our discussions focus on concerning trends in hospice, Ira Byock’s white paper, concerning trends in hospice, certificate of need, danger of losing a generation of junior researchers and hope in the form of ASCENT, various measures of hospice quality including Cordt’s National Hospice Locator, which ranks all area hospice by quality, unlike CMS’s Hospice Care Compare, which only has star ratings for about 30% of hospices.

Hospice and palliative care are going through a tough growth period, and sometimes being real with your friends and colleagues in your field means tough love. Love hurts.  And no, I’m not attempting the Nazareth version!

-Alex Smith