Ep 167 — Callis, Kimball, Skousen, Gilbert–Utah & BYU Police State | Minority Report
Release Date: 01/08/2025
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April 2025 General Conference Sunday Afternoon session. Patrons of the show get the appendix of Saturday Evening session at the end of the record. Ulisses Soares – Reverence; Moses and the burning bush; you-damn-kids talk; pray for guidance from the Holy Ghost for AI, don’t weaken your connection to God with AI!!! Michael Strong Q70 – Killed a kid on a bike during his mission, was really sad that he had to spend the night in jail until a ‘compassionate’ fellow missionary stayed with him Scott Whiting Q70 – Hazed as a deacon and sat on a cactus; Garden...
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We begin our next series, this time on Capital Punishment. We start with the history of crimes throughout written history that justified the death penalty. Then we get into colonial history and how the death penalty was built into the foundations of racist America. Multiple Supreme Court rulings have shifted the landscape. We end with the recent EO attempting to expand the powers of the death penalty. Death Penalty survey #1: Show Notes: History of the death penalty: Timeline of the history of the death penalty: History of the...
info_outlineBYU and SLC anti-vice. We discuss the history of Charles A. Callis, his career in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and politics, and his final assignment before death, creating a sexual purity surveillance and counseling/therapy program for Mormons in the 40s. After his death, Spencer W. Kimball took the reins and vastly expanded the reach and purposes of the program, resulting in The Miracle of Forgiveness. Cleon Skousen was running raids on gay clubs and anybody else seen as commie enemies of god’s country. The systems they created have adapted, evolved, and conformed to the times, but never gone away, as evidenced by the recent SL Tribue piece about BYU’s retrenchment and culture of fear. Then we chat about Minority report, a Tom Cruise sci-fi flick with surprisingly profound concepts. We wrap with happy news about the first openly transgender congressperson in American history.
Show Notes:
https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/
https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/05-the-miracle-of-forgiveness/
https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/16-the-cure-2-0/
https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/gay-rights-and-mormonism/07-salt-lake-city-gay-scene/
https://archive.org/details/spencerwkimballt00kimb/page/271/mode/2up?view=theater
https://ourphoenixfoundation.org/includes/about.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_International
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/gay/individuals?lang=eng
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/transgender/understanding?lang=eng
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/05/byu-blue-why-these-are-dark-days/
https://fairnessforall.org/the-utah-compromise/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Cleon_Skousen
https://police.slc.gov/about/history/
https://lris.com/recent-developments/2012/05/salt-lake-city-vice-squad-disbanded/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._Talmage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Smoot_hearings
https://prophetsseersandrevelators.wordpress.com/2021/10/31/the-political-manifesto/
https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/DE2/id/201100
https://news.google.com.au/newspapers?nid=Aul-kAQHnToC&dat=18961109&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
https://www.uen.org/utah_history_encyclopedia/e/ELECTIONS.shtml
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_(Utah)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1896_United_States_presidential_election_in_Utah
https://archive.org/details/improvementera3707unse/page/434/mode/2up?view=theater
https://archiveviewer.org/collections/en/improvement-era#1934
https://mormonstudies.as.virginia.edu/david-o-mckay-diary-excerpts/w-cleon-skousen/
https://www.qsaltlake.com/news/2009/09/28/the-oppressive-50s/
http://www.nomorestrangers.org/timeline-of-mormon-thinking-about-homosexuality/
http://www.elisarolle.com/queerplaces/fghij/Jack%20Pembroke.html
https://www.glapn.org/sodomylaws/sensibilities/utah.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Utah#Conversion_therapy
https://books.google.com/books?id=rlC1DgAAQBAJ&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Brigham_Young_University_LGBTQ_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pack
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_A._Callis
https://thesingleleaf.com/tag/charles-albert-callis/
https://rsc.byu.edu/prophets-apostles-last-dispensation/charles-albert-callis
https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/2d1fb5a0-211a-4908-baca-5e3dd9e145eb/0/178?lang=eng
https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/chd/individual/charles-albert-callis-1866?lang=eng
Article Shannon brought up: The Role of the LDS Church in Utah Politics: An Insider’s Look https://www.mrm.org/utah-politics
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