Ep 190 — Mormon Money pt. 5; Gerald Caussé | Catch Me If You Can
Release Date: 11/26/2025
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The new apostle for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has taken his seat at the table. Gerald Caussé spent his life in corporate business before his call to the Presiding Bishopric in 2012. In 2015 he ascended to Presiding Bishop and has been the money manager of the church since then. During his tenure, numerous scandals have hit the church related to finances, including a fine from the SEC for falsifying business records to conceal wealth. In the wake of these numerous scandals, Gerald takes his position on the board of the wealthiest religion on the planet. Let’s discuss!...
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Show Notes:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-07-18/how-the-mormons-make-money?embedded-checkout=true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rald_Causs%C3%A9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_E._Stevenson
https://archive.ph/20130102082820/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695267801,00.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXbPxIHkijg
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/gerald-j-causse?lang=eng
https://speeches.byu.edu/speakers/gerald-causse/
https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/4636873Z:FP?embedded-checkout=true
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/08/16/lds-churchs-ensign-peak-reports/
https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/feds-fine-mormon-church-5-million
https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023-35
https://ldsflow.com/the-lds-church-a-year-of-global-service-and-impact-w-infographic/
https://www.livescience.com/18094-perceptions-mormonism-americans-infographic.html
https://exploringmormonism.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Corporate-structure-image-400.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/8nwznm/breakdown_of_the_humanitarian_aid_vs_church/
https://mormonfamily.net/2666/mormons-in-america
https://mormonwiki.com/Farms_Owned_By_The_Mormon_Church
https://mormonwiki.com/Farmland_Reserve
https://github.com/jsoma/data-studio-projects/issues/287
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/feature/templesquare/dining?lang=eng
https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=54478720&itype=cmsid
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-presidency-statement-church-finances
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/church-donations-and-reserves?lang=eng
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-finances-and-a-growing-global-church
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-financial-independence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/mitt-romneys-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-campaign/
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/leader/keith-b-mcmullin?lang=eng
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/leader/keith-b-mcmullin?lang=eng
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/8n8dd3/mormonleaks_has_uncovered_13_llcs_limited/
MOGP: Catch Me If You Can: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264464/?ref_=ttpl_ov_bk
Where it’s streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/catch-me-if-you-can
Books:
The Greatest Hoax on Earth – Catching Truth, While We Can, by Alan C Logan
Catch Me If You Can: The True Story of a Real Fake, by Frank W. Abagnale and Stan Redding
Frank Abagnale Jr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale
Happy News: A tiny enzyme may hold the key to safer pain relief: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251123085557.htm
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk
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