In the Loop: Good Leaders are Great Listeners with Katherine Coble
Release Date: 12/16/2025
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info_outlineWhat if the most powerful leadership skill isn’t what you say, but what you don’t?
Katherine shares a surprising truth: she struggles with listening, and she knows she’s not alone. As leaders, we often think communication is about what we say, but the real power lies in what we hear. 👂💬
Katherine explores why listening is so hard (even for well-intentioned leaders), the hidden costs of distraction, and how our brains deceive us into thinking we’re better at it than we are. Most importantly, she breaks down five practical shifts that will help you listen deeper, lead better, and connect more authentically.
If you want to build credibility, foster trust, and truly hear your people, start here.
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Key Takeaways:
- Listening is a leadership skill, not just a courtesy.
- Distractions kill connection. Eliminate them intentionally.
- Interrupting signals your words matter more than theirs.
- Validation shows you hear both words and emotion.
- Empathy builds trust. Focus on others, not yourself.