EP466: What Is Rising Faster, Insurance Premiums or Hospital Prices? With Vivian Ho, PhD
Release Date: 03/06/2025
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info_outlineHealthcare costs keep rising, but what’s driving those increases? In this episode, Stacey Richter speaks with Dr. Vivian Ho, a health economist at Rice University and Baylor College of Medicine, to break down the real reasons behind skyrocketing commercial insurance premiums.
- Are insurance premiums rising faster than wages—and why does it matter?
- What’s the biggest driver of premium increases? (Spoiler: It’s hospital prices.)
- Are hospital price hikes justified by rising costs—or is something else at play?
Dr. Ho shares data-backed insights on hospital consolidation, executive incentives, and how health system pricing impacts self-insured employers and plan sponsors. If you’re a healthcare executive or a jumbo employer managing benefits, this episode is a must-listen.
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05:12 Are insurance premiums going up?
05:59 What is the disparity between cost of insurance and wage increases?06:21 LinkedIn post by Byron Hugley.
06:25 Article by Michael Strain.
06:46 How much have insurance premiums gone up for employers versus employees?
09:06 Chart showing the cost to insure populations of employees and families.
10:17 What is causing hospital prices and insurance premiums to go up so exponentially?
12:53 Article by (and tribute to) Uwe Reinhardt.
13:49 EP450 with Marilyn Bartlett, CPA, CGMA, CMA, CFM.
15:28 Are razor-thin operating margins for hospitals causing these rising hospital prices?
16:56 Collaboration with Marilyn Bartlett and the NASHP Hospital Cost Tool.
19:47 What is the explanation that hospitals give for justifying these profits?23:16 How do these hospital cost increases actually happen?
27:06 Study by Zack Cooper, PhD.
27:50 Who typically makes up a hospital board, and why do these motivations incentivize hospital price increases?
30:12 EP418 with Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA.
33:17 Why is it vital that change start at the board level?