Ep 172: The 4th Phase of Water: The Blueprint for Biological Energy with Dr. Gerald Pollack
The Way Forward with Alec Zeck
Release Date: 06/18/2025
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Alec is joined by Dr. Gerald Pollack, professor at the University of Washington, to explore the “fourth phase” of water and its vital role in biological energy. They discuss how structured water near cell surfaces, called the Exclusion Zone, challenges traditional biology, the energy sources behind it, and its implications for cell health and cancer. Dr. Pollack also reflects on the scientific pioneers who first proposed these ideas and the resistance faced by revolutionary research.
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Pollack Lab Website – https://www.pollacklab.org/
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