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How to Disaster

Release Date: 10/14/2024

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How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT Episode Description:  “We are not hopeless against mega-fires. We are not hopeless against the era of climate change. We can do these things together because we are daring to hope and to help each other.” —Jennifer Gray Thompson   As we bring this transformative event to a close, we are filled with an overwhelming sense of gratitude. Each and every one of you has played a vital role in making this summit a resounding success. Whether you traveled from near or far, volunteered tirelessly behind the scenes, or tuned in from your homes and...

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How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT   Episode Description:  “Aloha does not mean hello and goodbye. Aloha has a much deeper meaning of love and respect. Hello to the return of our Indigenous kupuna knowledge and goodbye to the profit-making capitalistic colonization types of thinking that put profit over people.” —Ku’uleinani Maunupau   Colonization has disrupted the deep connection between the land and its indigenous people in Hawaii. The once-thriving Hawaiian land management practice that fostered a harmonious relationship between the people and the environment, has been...

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030: Day 3: TALK STORY: IBHS Wildfire Prepared Home Program: The Road to Implementation with Amanda West and Mark Vaughn show art 030: Day 3: TALK STORY: IBHS Wildfire Prepared Home Program: The Road to Implementation with Amanda West and Mark Vaughn

How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT   Episode Description:  “We're not powerless. We are not powerless against wildfire. We know what we need to do.” —Amanda West “I try not to use the word remove. Just move them. You can have plants. You can have a beautiful landscape. We want that five feet for the fire break.” —Mark Vaughn   Wildfires pose a serious threat to homes and communities, but we don't have to be helpless in the face of these disasters. By implementing proven mitigation strategies, homeowners can take proactive steps to protect their properties and create...

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How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT   Episode Description:   “As the recovery process continues, you have to continue to adapt.” —Emily Nilsen Disaster recovery is a complex challenge, but innovative lenders are stepping up to the plate. Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFIs) like Impact Development Fund are providing flexible financing, coordinating resources, and creating tailored programs to support communities in rebuilding and becoming more resilient. In this talk, we hear from Emily Nilsen, the Chief Program Officer of . Listen in as Emily shares IDF’s...

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028: Day 3: KEYNOTE: Empowering Heirs: Fannie Mae's Program for Retaining Ownership and Returning Home After Disaster with Tim Carpenter show art 028: Day 3: KEYNOTE: Empowering Heirs: Fannie Mae's Program for Retaining Ownership and Returning Home After Disaster with Tim Carpenter

How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT   Episode Description:  “Home ownership is about stability. Homeownership is about building wealth. Homeownership is about families. But if you don't have a clear title, you don't know if that stability is going to be there.” —Tim Carpenter   Disaster strikes, but for some, the real battle is just beginning. Millions of homes across the US are caught in a tangled web of heirs property— families without clear title to their generational land. This legal limbo leaves them vulnerable to losing everything. Thus, understanding the challenges of...

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How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT   Episode Description:  “How you frame your argument is how you get them to listen.” —Jeff Okrepkie   “We're willing to help anybody out that is going through this now or in the future.” —Steve Crowder    “There's no playbook when it comes to a wildfire… Be ready, because you know this is going to impact you at some point, maybe not directly but you will be.” —Kevin Goss   “There is a next step, and we just have to keep moving forward.” —Jenn Kaaoush   Disaster can strike anyone, even those sworn to...

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How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT   Episode Description:  This recovery is slow, it's painful, and it's costly. We need patience, and aloha, and support because we're all in this together.”  —Angus McKelvey   “We have a lot of challenges moving forward, and it's figuring out the strategy of how we're going to approach it. And once you get that strategy, you have to figure out how do we get it to implementation.” —Troy Hashimoto   Disaster recovery is not just about the visible on-the-ground efforts - it also involves complex state-level decisions and...

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How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT   Episode Description:  “Trust is so important to building a community of practice. And part of that trust comes from understanding where people are and where they stand.” —Michael McCormick   “Once the scene is stabilized and we start to clean things up, and then there comes a point where we start rebuilding things… and that's when the long-term recovery begins.” —Matt McRae   “There are simultaneous disasters occurring at the same time everywhere, and you never know what's going to hit you at that time, and you have to be...

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How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT   Episode Description:  “It's not enough just to give, you have to always receive as well with the same grace and gratitude and aloha.” —Jennifer Gray Thompson   “Aloha is boundless, and we know that Aloha reaches all shores and all states. Even in the most trying of times together, we are one team.”  —Mahina Martin   Welcome to the final day of the 2024 Wildfire Leadership Summit. We're so glad you could join us for this last session— it's been an incredible few days filled with insightful discussions, powerful...

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How to Disaster

2024 WILDFIRE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT Episode Description:   “Indigenous values can shift how we deal with disasters.” —Kainoa Horcajo   Disaster recovery isn't just about rebuilding infrastructure— it's about honoring the deep connections between people and place. Principles like reciprocity, collective responsibility, and deep connection to the land can shape a more compassionate and community-centered approach to rebuilding after crises. By honoring these time-tested philosophies, we unlock powerful pathways to healing and resilience. Kainoa Horcajo is a cultural...

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Episode Description: 

“There's no greater power, no greater strength, and no greater drive to persevere than when you're fighting for your family and you're fighting for your home, even in the face of insurmountable odds.” —Josiah Nishita

 

“We were the home to the most disastrous wildfire at the time, and that's one of those titles that you don't want, but at the same time you don't want to lose it, because that means that somebody else has gone through something worse than you.” —Paul Lowenthal 

 

“That trust with someone that had gone through it and built it before was so necessary. As a new community going through this, you don't know who to trust.” —John Smith 

 

“We learned some lessons the hard way, but other communities don't have to.  We continue to pay it forward. We continue to help others. That is our mission, that is our goal.” —Scott Westrope

 

Mutual aid is a critical component of effective disaster recovery. By sharing resources, expertise, and lessons learned, communities can bounce back faster and stronger in the face of catastrophic events. Mutual support is the foundation for building resilience and restoring hope.

In this episode, we hear from Josiah Nishita, the Managing Director for Maui County, John Smith, the Public Works Highways Division Chief of Maui, Scott Westrope, the Fire Chief for the City of Santa Rosa, and Paul Lowenthal, the Deputy Fire Chief for the City of Santa Rosa.  

From navigating the complexities of debris removal and infrastructure repair to fostering community engagement and maintaining resilience, this panel shares invaluable insights on the power of mutual aid and how to do it right. Don't miss this episode to learn how collaboration and shared experiences can transform disaster recovery.

 

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Highlights:

  • 01:26 Maui: Where We Were and How Far We’ve Come
  • 05:20 The Day After the Horrifying August 8th
  • 09:57 One Year After
  • 14:43 Fighting For Our Home
  • 19:47 Facing the Unexpected
  • 22:58 Connecting Sta Rosa with Maui
  • 29:07 The Importance of Building Trust
  • 33:54 Build Relationships Early
  • 37:31 Pay It Forward

 

Meet the Moderator

👩🏻‍💼 Reva Feldman, Former City Manager, Malibu (2016-2021) / Advisor, After the Fire USA

Reva Feldman has more than twenty years of experience in public service. She has been with the City since 2005, serving as the Assistant City Manager and Administrative Services Director before her appointment as City Manager in May 2016. Reva brings with her strong leadership skills, knowledge, experience, and a deep dedication to the community.

 

Meet the Panel:

👨🏻‍💼Paul Lowenthal, Deputy Fire Chief, City of Santa Rosa

Paul Lowenthal is the Division Chief Fire Marshal for the city of Santa Rosa. He's been involved in fire and disaster recovery since 2017 when he first led the Debris Task Force for the city of Santa Rosa, following the Tubbs fire and Nuns Fire. In 2020 Paul played a key role in coordinating recovery after the Glass Fire. More recently, Paul has been assisting with recovery in Maui County. He's a board member of the Fire Safe Council for Sonoma County. He managed the development of the Santa Rosa vegetation management program and the vegetation management ordinance. He also has helped develop the city's community wildfire protection plan.



👨🏻‍💼Scott Westrope, Fire Chief, City of Santa Rosa

Scott Westrope is the Fire Chief for the city of Santa Rosa. He began his fire service in San Luis Obispo County, first with a Pismo Beach Fire Department and then with San Luis Obispo County. He came to Santa Rosa in 2000 and has held the ranks of firefighter, paramedic, Captain, training captain, battalion chief and Deputy Fire Chief. He became the interim fire chief in 2020 and fire chief in 2021. He holds a bachelor's degree in emergency services management and is a state of California Certified Chief Officer. He sits on the board for REDCOM, he is the Vice President of the Sonoma County Fire Chiefs Association, represents all of the cities on the Sonoma County Fire Service working group, is the Area Director for the California Fire Chiefs Association and serves as Sonoma County's Operational Area Coordinator. 

 

👨🏻‍💼John Smith, Highways Chief, County of Maui

John Smith is the Public Works Highways Division Chief for Maui County. He is a seasoned engineering professional with over 22 years of experience in infrastructure design, construction, and maintenance. He manages all operations and provides oversight for personnel and program budgets regarding county roadway systems. John now serves as the CO lead for the Office of Recovery, infrastructure recovery support function, and leads all fire debris removal efforts while restoring critical services such as clean drinking water, sanitary sewer, and electricity. John holds a Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering from Ohio University and is a registered professional engineer.

 

👨🏻‍💼Josiah Nishita, Managing Director, County of Maui: Office of the Mayor

Josiah Nishita is the managing director for the county of Maui. He has played a crucial role in leading Maui's disaster recovery efforts following the devastating wildfires that impacted the island in August 2023. Josiah has demonstrated exceptional leadership in coordinating the county's response and recovery operations, including establishing emergency shelters, facilitating debris removal, and restoring critical infrastructure. He has also been instrumental in fostering strong partnerships with other communities and organizations to leverage mutual aid and best practices. His dedication to supporting the Maui community through this challenging time has been widely recognized, and he continues to be a driving force in the county's ongoing recovery and resilience efforts.

 

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