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394 The Driver of Innovation is Curiosity

Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will

Release Date: 08/19/2025

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394 The Driver of Innovation is Curiosity

 

Curiosity is in our nature as human beings, we crave knowledge and the answers to the how’s and why’s. Whether it be from a scientific standpoint, raising a child, or to work more cohesively with our coworkers, we must always stay curious so that we can always be growing. 

In this episode Sarah Elkins and Jeff Ikler discuss not just their vital work, but how they have maintained healthy relationships, and a positive mental state by always staying curious. 

 

Highlights

  • Avoiding the after conference hangover by having a support team to further your ideas and goals.

  • Taking something you deem important and holding onto it while using it as the foundation for something meaningful to be built.

  • You can’t please everyone, so cast a smaller net, tend to your audience.

  • How are you furthering yourself either with academic education or social education?

  • Walk away with at least one idea, even if you need to come up with it yourself or seek it out. Be intentional about what you choose to remember.

  • Let people get comfortable and feel safe before taking a risk.

  • What do you carry that reminds you of those who have shaped you?

 

Quotes

“I have to narrow it down to what’s one really good thing I can remember about this? Otherwise, for me, it can become overwhelming.”

“If you stand for everything, you stand for nothing,”

“Shoot with a rifle, not with a shotgun.”

“Glaciers move faster than changes in education.”

“The driver of innovation is curiosity.”



Dear Listeners it is now your turn,

Sarah: going to have Jeff ask you a few questions but first I’m going to ask you a couple questions. When you think about the stories that you tell, do they demonstrate your curiosity? Do they demonstrate your motivation or your ambition to learn and to grow as a human being? What is one story that you can point to that you can craft and develop, that is three minutes or shorter, that you know people will understand what matters to you and how you lead. I’d love to hear from you. Jeff, what are your conclusions for our listeners?

Jeff: So what I’m curious about is what came up for people as you and I were talking, because my hope, because this is like when we’re talking about the reflection part of the podcast, I want people to be wanting to walk away with something. 

So what’s the take away? What’s something that impacted you as Sarah and I were talking about how we go about doing our work, how we’re thinking about our work, and how it impacts on the work you’re doing.     

And, as always, thank you for listening.

 

Mentioned in this podcast

Lisa Weiss, The Object Diaries

Neil Hughes Podcast, LinkedIn

 

About Jeff

Jeff Ikler is Director of Quetico Career and Leadership Coaching, a firm dedicated to helping individuals overcome career issues and develop sustained changes in their leadership practices and organizations. He received his certificate in coaching from the Coach Training Institute. He is a certified innovation facilitator using the SIT (Systematic Inventive Thinking) process. Jeff holds a Master’s in the Teaching of History along with a Bachelor’s in History from the University of Illinois. He taught high school history in Maywood and Batavia, Illinois, for seven years. He is a former Executive Vice President at Pearson Learning where he directed the development of text- and technology-based products for all disciplines. Jeff is a co-author of Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change. He is the host the “Getting Unstuck – Cultivating Curiosity” podcast. Supporting the agency of others is the river that has run through his entire career.

Be sure to check out Jeff’s Substack, LinkedIn as well as Quetico Coaching and Consulting!

 

About Sarah

"Uncovering the right stories for the right audiences so executives, leaders, public speakers, and job seekers can clearly and actively demonstrate their character, values, and vision."

In my work with coaching clients, I guide people to improve their communication using storytelling as the foundation of our work together. What I’ve realized over years of coaching and podcasting is that the majority of people don’t realize the impact of the stories they share - on their internal messages, and on the people they’re sharing them with.

My work with leaders and people who aspire to be leaders follows a similar path to the interviews on my podcast, uncovering pivotal moments in their lives and learning how to share them to connect more authentically with others, to make their presentations and speaking more engaging, to reveal patterns that have kept them stuck or moved them forward, and to improve their relationships at work and at home.

The audiobook, Your Stories Don’t Define You, How You Tell Them Will is now available!

Included with your purchase are two bonus tracks, songs recorded by Sarah's band, Spare Change, in her living room in Montana.

Be sure to check out the Storytelling For Professionals Course as well to make sure you nail that next interview!