Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five - The Multiverse of Self - 187
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info_outlineIn Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five, the multiverse of self, co hosts, Bonnie, Casey, Jeff, and Rajeev dive into the most uncomfortable and awkward of spaces “the self.”
The work and interview with Debbie Glander is referenced to remind us that our formation (childhood, puberty, adolescence) was not a solo project but many, in trusted positions, had major impacts on who we have become.
Each co-host still feels the lingering stings of being told we were sinful-to-the-core and the profound difficulty that creates when trying to trust oneself. This results in a reduction of the idea of self and a rejection of self as complex.
“It takes a lot of work to become truly oneself.” Bonnie
The conversation explores the problems when “trusting self” is claimed in the “alternate facts, anti-vax, crowd;” and the difficulties social media imposes on all people.
Facing the “facts” about why we have come to certain conclusions may be the first real step to self discovery. It is essential for many of us to get professional therapy, not the “christian” counselor in the church basement.
A necessary developmental ingredient is the “deliciousness of adolescence” that many of us in the evangelical/fundamentalist world were denied. How were the decisions you made shaped? A possible way forward isn’t a hollow reclamation of a rebellious youth but instead a wholly-process-of-grieving and of forgiveness of younger selves.
Sometimes, the shadow side should be brought forward in order to disperse the controls in place that force us into gender roles and relational dynamics that serve to uphold the toxicity of “men as the head of everything.”
A primary fallacy is that the self is fixed. We are not the sum total of our stories. And while Enneagram is helpful to self discovery, we must not be defined by our number. Self is a process, a moment by moment discovery. The journey should reject “conformity equals unity” and lean into respectful conflict between authentic self-moments in order to get anywhere real.
And maybe find things to have gratitude for along the way.
And finally, ever wonder what a “train wreck of a segment” sounds like - take a listen. Each host takes a well known and well loved story and shares a synopsis - the other hosts try to guess the title of the work.
“Dazed and Uncomprehending” is suggested as the title for a handbook on men.
Ya...it’s a mess but an endearing mess.
Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five (02:08)
Title Me This Segment (42:21)
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RELEVANT LINKS
From Our Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Five
- The Series So Far…
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- Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One – Waking Up – 183 (Part 1 also includes a portion of our interview with Debbie Glander mentioned at the beginning of this episode)
- Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Two – Becoming Less Dangerous – 184
- Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Three – Flying Through the Soup On a Treasure Hunt – 185
- Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part Four – The Rob Bell is Full of Sh*t Spectrum – 186
- Erik Erikson's Stages of Psychosocial Development
- What Does Christmas Mean to You? – The Great Birth Narrative Debate – 181
- Quanita Roberson – Grief, Healing and Hope – 169
From Our Title Me This Segment
- Quest of the Highlander by Cynthia Wright
- E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982 Film)
- Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
- Love and Death on Long Island (1997 Film)
- Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
- Stand By Me (1986 Film)
- The Body by Stephen King
- Twilight by Stephenie Meyer
- The Song of Lunch (2010 Film)
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