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Mean Girls Don't Make Leaders

Making Maverick Moves

Release Date: 03/03/2025

From Star Wars Defense to Surf Tacos | Wing Lam’s Maverick Journey with Wahoo’s Fish Tacos show art From Star Wars Defense to Surf Tacos | Wing Lam’s Maverick Journey with Wahoo’s Fish Tacos

Making Maverick Moves

Follow Gina: Follow Wing: What happens when you leave a high-tech aerospace career working on the Star Wars defense program to open a taco joint for surfers? Wing Lam, co-founder of Wahoo’s Fish Tacos, shares his inspiring journey of taking risks, embracing authenticity, and building one of California’s most iconic lifestyle brands. In this episode of Making Maverick Moves, Wing reveals how he turned a simple idea into a cultural movement by aligning with the surf and skate community, empowering his team, and leading with purpose. He also discusses lessons in leadership, resilience...

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Plastic Surgeon Behind Tamra Judge’s Viral Makeover Explains the Truth About Beauty, Aging & Surgery show art Plastic Surgeon Behind Tamra Judge’s Viral Makeover Explains the Truth About Beauty, Aging & Surgery

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Follow Gina: Follow Dr. Mowlds: Dr. Mowlds, the viral plastic surgeon behind Real Housewives star Tamra Judge’s transformation, joins Making Maverick Moves to reveal what really happened, the truth about plastic surgery, and how to age gracefully—without losing yourself. Whether you're considering cosmetic work or just curious about how to look your best as you age, this episode is full of eye-opening insights, powerful advice, and real talk about confidence, self-image, and the future of aesthetics. Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: Meet Dr. Mowlds, the man behind Tamra Judge’s...

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From Bullying to Boxing Gloves, How My Son Fought Back | Making Maverick Moves #17 show art From Bullying to Boxing Gloves, How My Son Fought Back | Making Maverick Moves #17

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Follow Gina: Special thanks to Amanda Selogie at Inclusive Education Project, Aldair Perez at Storm mma, and Michelle McDuffie at The Johnson Academy for their support. When Tamme Smith’s son, Thomas, was bullied, excluded, and physically attacked in middle school, she refused to stay silent. Instead, she wrote a bold, emotional letter to the parents of the bullies—and posted it online. That letter went viral. In this powerful episode of Making Maverick Moves, Tamme shares her family's journey through pain, advocacy, and healing. From a school system that failed her son to the...

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Inside the Mind of Serial Killers | FBI Jana Monroe’s Chilling Stories show art Inside the Mind of Serial Killers | FBI Jana Monroe’s Chilling Stories

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Follow Gina: In this gripping episode, trailblazing FBI profiler Jana Monroe shares her experiences from the elite Behavioral Science Unit. From interviewing serial killers to solving one of Florida’s most notorious murder cases, Jana opens up about what it takes to face pure evil — and how she stayed strong as one of the first women in this male-dominated field. Hosted by Gina L. Osborn, this conversation dives deep into the psychology of killers, leadership under pressure, and rare behind-the-scenes moments like working on Silence of the Lambs. 🔥 Don’t miss this powerful inside...

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Don’t Just Check Every Box. How to Break the Mold Instead. | Making Maverick Moves #15 show art Don’t Just Check Every Box. How to Break the Mold Instead. | Making Maverick Moves #15

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Follow Gina: Real stories, practical leadership tips, and a wake-up call to unleash your maverick mindset. Timestamps 00:00 – Meet Gina: Army vet, FBI agent, and fearless leader 00:39 – Why men apply before they’re ready—and women often don’t 01:19 – Credentials aren’t everything—vision is 02:03 – Your differences aren’t weaknesses—they’re your edge 02:47 – Turn “gaps” into growth: how to frame your story  03:24 – Build your leadership narrative, not just a resume 04:45 – Speak up, ask bold questions, and challenge the status quo  06:07 – Build a...

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Trading Comfort for Authenticity with Julie Farbaniec show art Trading Comfort for Authenticity with Julie Farbaniec

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Follow Gina: From corporate HR to launching her own leadership company, Julie opens up about authenticity, courage, and building trust. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro: Julie Farbaniec’s leadership journey 01:43 - Why “just because you think it, doesn’t make it true” 03:27 - The damage of unvalidated assumptions in leadership 06:00 - What is a strategic pause? (Viktor Frankl’s quote explained) 08:19 - How a strategic pause builds more leadership choices  11:20 - Always Be Validating (ABV): A leader’s mindset shift  13:21 - Embracing spectral thinking: multiple truths can exist...

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Raise the Roof: How One Businessman Built a Legacy of Good show art Raise the Roof: How One Businessman Built a Legacy of Good

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Follow Gina: Charles Antis, founder of Antis Roofing, shares the emotional journey of how a single act of generosity reshaped his life, business, and industry. From giving away his first roof to leading national philanthropic initiatives, Charles proves that fearless giving can build both legacy and impact. This inspiring conversation is packed with powerful moments on leadership, vulnerability, and turning business into a force for good. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction to Charles Antis & his purpose-driven mission 01:35 – The emotional story of giving away his first roof 06:00 –...

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Heather Brown, Trial Lawyer & Advocate for Justice show art Heather Brown, Trial Lawyer & Advocate for Justice

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Follow Gina: Heather Brown's journey from surviving childhood abuse to becoming a fierce advocate and trial lawyer is one of the most powerful stories of resilience and purpose you'll ever hear. In this episode of Making Maverick Moves, Heather shares how her trauma became her motivation to prosecute child predators, change institutional policies, and support survivors through both criminal and civil law. If you or someone you know has ever faced adversity, this episode is a must-watch. Heather’s story is not just one of survival—it’s a roadmap to justice, empowerment, and change. ...

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Purpose, Reinvented: Leading with Heart, Healing with Work | Bonnie Pomish, CEO of Working Wardrobes show art Purpose, Reinvented: Leading with Heart, Healing with Work | Bonnie Pomish, CEO of Working Wardrobes

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Follow Gina: A powerful conversation on second chances, purpose, and building dignity through workforce reentry. What does it take to follow in the footsteps of a legendary founder — and make the mission your own? In this inspiring episode, Bonnie Pomish, CEO of Working Wardrobes, shares her bold journey of stepping into leadership with authenticity, compassion, and courage. From empowering veterans and formerly incarcerated individuals to redefining perfectionism and building a values-driven team, Bonnie reveals what it truly means to lead with heart. If you've ever struggled with...

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From FBI to Fearless | Gina L. Osborn's Story show art From FBI to Fearless | Gina L. Osborn's Story

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Follow Gina!: Picture the resolve it takes to track Soviet spies across Cold‑War Europe, then rise through the ranks of one of the world’s premier law‑enforcement agency—only to step onto a TEDx stage and turn those lessons into a talk that moves strangers to act. That constellation of careers belongs to Gina L. Osborn. Gina’s sister, Lisa Osborn, guides today’s conversation. For three decades Gina has served country and community, proving that duty and daring are not mutually exclusive. In this episode you’ll hear Gina’s most gripping field stories and, more...

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In this Power Moves and Leadership Lessons episode of Making Maverick Moves, we tackle a harsh reality - "Mean Girls" don't make leaders.  In the boardroom, the breakroom, or behind closed doors, toxic behavior undermines trust, stifles innovation, and holds everyone back.  Real leadership isn't about tearing others down; it's about lifting them up. Join Gina as she breaks down the difference between power and influence, explores why true leaders reject the mean-girl mentality, and shares strategies for fostering a culture of collaboration, courage, and respect.  If you've ever dealt with a mean girl in the workplace, this episode is for you.