LH126 Polynesian Navigators with Laura Overton and Michelle Ockers
Release Date: 03/09/2026
TI00 Welcome to The Tech Imaginarium
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In 1983, Isaac Asimov predicted that computers would let every person learn what they wanted, in their own time, at their own speed. Forty years on, that vision is more or less the world we live in. So what else might science fiction have to tell us about the future we're already inside? Welcome to The Tech Imaginarium — a new six-part series exploring how science fiction made the modern world. Co-hosts John Helmer and Ezri Carlebach introduce the season ahead, the texts and authors they'll be reading as "skewed mirrors" of our technological present, and why now is exactly the right moment...
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LH126 Polynesian Navigators with Laura Overton and Michelle Ockers
The Learning Hack podcast
Does L&D know where it's going? What separates the L&D functions that genuinely move organisations forward from those that stay busy but never quite shift the dial? That question has driven 's research for over two decades — and it sits at the heart of The L&D Leader, the new book she co-authored with . Their answer, drawn from more than ten thousand L&D professionals and two hundred learning leaders, points not to new tools or models, but to something older and harder to teach: the ability to read the organisation, sense its currents, and navigate your own way to somewhere...
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LH122 The Changing Shape of Work with Josh Bersin
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The year ahead for learning, skills and work As organisations head into 2026, Josh Bersin returns to The Learning Hack to make sense of what is really changing in work, skills and learning. Drawing on his latest research and global advisory work, Josh explains why AI has crossed a threshold, how jobs are being reshaped rather than eliminated, why skills velocity is fundamentally cultural, and why L&D is facing a once-in-a-generation structural reinvention. Timestamps 01:28 – Intro 03:12 – What happened in 2025? 05:08 – ‘Superworkers’ & ‘supermanagers’ ...
info_outlineDoes L&D know where it's going?
What separates the L&D functions that genuinely move organisations forward from those that stay busy but never quite shift the dial? That question has driven Laura Overton's research for over two decades — and it sits at the heart of The L&D Leader, the new book she co-authored with Michelle Ockers. Their answer, drawn from more than ten thousand L&D professionals and two hundred learning leaders, points not to new tools or models, but to something older and harder to teach: the ability to read the organisation, sense its currents, and navigate your own way to somewhere that matters.
In this episode John talks with Laura and Michelle about the ideas behind the book, which opens with the extraordinary story of the ancient Polynesian navigators — people who crossed 2,500 miles of open ocean without a compass or a clock. They discuss the lasting legacy of the pandemic for L&D, why two decades of research on workplace learning strategy show surprisingly little change in how most functions operate, and the risk that chasing the latest tool or model is actually damaging L&D's ability to drive real value.
And then there's the question that sits underneath all the talk of L&D maturity and business alignment: when we talk about driving value through learning, who exactly is that value for?
TIMESTAMPS
00:02:44 - Intro
00:05:55 - What was the genesis of the book?
00:10:04 - The collaboration — how Laura and Michelle came to write together
00:13:29 - Legacy of the pandemic for L&D
00:16:10 - Was the pandemic a 'golden period' for L&D?
00:19:42 - What are they telling people in The L&D Leader?
00:30:00 - The Polynesian navigators — and what they mean for L&D leadership
00:39:09 - Is technology causing 'skill fade' in L&D?
00:41:42 - How has the L&D community changed over two decades?
00:50:55 - Who gets the value from workplace learning — the learner or the stakeholder?
01:02:58 - End
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