182. Climbing the Mountain: A Holistic Approach to Family Play Therapy with “Dr. Sassy” (Stacy Jagger)
Release Date: 12/17/2024
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info_outline"Working with families isn’t about fixing individuals; it’s about finding the rhythm where everyone can grow together." – Dr. Stacy Jagger
In this episode, Lisa welcomes back the inspiring Dr. Stacy Jagger, affectionately known as “Dr. Sassy,” to dive into a topic that has shockingly never been fully explored in the series: working with the entire family system in play therapy. With her groundbreaking Mountain Method and a reputation for blending bold truth-telling with heartfelt humor, Dr. Stacy shares her unique approach to supporting families as a unit, rather than focusing solely on the child as the client.
Together, Lisa and Dr. Stacy discuss:
- Reframing the family as the client: Why working with the entire system transforms outcomes.
- A step-by-step roadmap: The Mountain Method’s stages and how to engage every family member in the healing journey.
- The role of creativity and intuition: How therapists can embrace their inner artist to navigate family dynamics.
- Addressing resistance: Strategies for working with families who are hesitant to engage in the process.
- Healing through play: The profound impact of helping parents reconnect with their own inner child to better connect with their children.
With her refreshing honesty and deep compassion, Dr. Stacy inspires therapists to think beyond traditional methods and reimagine what’s possible when the whole family becomes part of the healing process.
Join Lisa and Dr. Stacy for a conversation that’s as insightful as it is empowering, and discover practical tools and encouragement to bring more creativity, authenticity, and connection to your work with families.
Tune in to uncover how you, too, can support families in climbing their own mountains of transformation. 🌟
Podcast Resources:
- Dr. Stacy Jagger’s work: www.drsassy.com
- The Mountain Method: www.themountainmethod.com
- Synergetic Play Therapy Institute: https://synergeticplaytherapy.com/
- Synergetic Play Therapy Learning Website: https://learn.synergeticplaytherapy.com/
- FREE Resources to support you on your play therapy journey: https://synergeticplaytherapy.com/free-resources/
- Aggression in Play Therapy: https://synergeticplaytherapy.com/books/
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