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Special: Embracing Messy Play: Navigating Messes in the Playroom with Synergetic Wisdom

Lessons from the Playroom

Release Date: 03/18/2025

Special: Understanding Sexualized Play in Therapy with Dr. Jodi Mullen show art Special: Understanding Sexualized Play in Therapy with Dr. Jodi Mullen

Lessons from the Playroom

One of the most highly requested topics in play therapy is finally here—understanding sexualized play in the playroom. In this deeply insightful episode, Lisa Dion is joined by Dr. Jodi Mullen, a leading expert in play therapy and child trauma, to explore what it means when sexualized play emerges in sessions. 🔹 How to trust your felt sense as a clinician when sexualized play appears 🔹 Identifying red flags and themes that may indicate sexual trauma 🔹 Understanding transference and countertransference as clinical clues 🔹 The key differences between medical trauma vs. sexualized...

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195. When the Body Remembers: Psychosensory Healing, Play Therapy & the Wisdom Within with Kim Barthel show art 195. When the Body Remembers: Psychosensory Healing, Play Therapy & the Wisdom Within with Kim Barthel

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She’s back—and the energy in the room just elevated. In one of the most moving and illuminating episodes to date, Lisa Dion reunites with internationally renowned occupational therapist, author, and teacher Kim Barthel—one of the most beloved guests in the podcast’s history. Together, they take us deep into the world of psycho-sensory interventions, a term Kim coined decades ago during a pivotal moment that forever changed her clinical approach. Through a powerful real-life case study, this conversation explores how the body holds the story of trauma, how sensation can unlock memory,...

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Special: The 3 Types of Relationships in Play Therapy with Parents & Caregivers show art Special: The 3 Types of Relationships in Play Therapy with Parents & Caregivers

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What makes working with parents and caregivers feel smooth—or challenging—in play therapy? In this insightful episode, Lisa Dion explores three distinct types of relationships that shape our interactions with parents and caregivers in the therapeutic process. Understanding these dynamics can transform your approach, helping you create deeper, more conscious relationships that honor both you as a therapist and the parents you support. 🔹 Discover the three types of relationships that influence every interaction in and beyond the playroom 🔹 Learn how these relationship dynamics shape...

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194. Introducing Family Constellation Work: A Systemic Lens for Play Therapists show art 194. Introducing Family Constellation Work: A Systemic Lens for Play Therapists

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🎙️ She’s back! In her fourth appearance, Lisa welcomes the deeply loved and returning guest Mili Sarmiento Shoemaker—bilingual therapist, teacher, and Certified Synergetic Play Therapy Supervisor and Trainer—to introduce a brand-new topic to the podcast: Family Constellation Work. Rooted in systemic and ancestral wisdom, this conversation explores how children’s symptoms often reflect unresolved family dynamics, not just their own inner world. Together, Mili and Lisa unpack key principles from Family Constellation theory—including the Orders of Love—and how therapists can...

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Special: Reflective & Relational Play Therapy Supervision: A Deep Dive with Lisa Dion & Guests show art Special: Reflective & Relational Play Therapy Supervision: A Deep Dive with Lisa Dion & Guests

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What makes play therapy supervision truly effective? In this first-ever Lessons from the Playroom episode on supervision, Lisa Dion is joined by Polly Douglass, Kim Buller, and Khris Rolfe—three extraordinary play therapists and top supervisors at the Synergetic Play Therapy Institute. Together, they explore the power of reflective and relational supervision and how it transforms both supervisees and their clients. Whether you're currently in supervision or serving as a supervisor, this episode will offer invaluable insights into: 🔹 What it means to be reflective and relational in...

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193. Unleashing your Creativity: A Conversation with Mama Owls Minis show art 193. Unleashing your Creativity: A Conversation with Mama Owls Minis

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In this heartfelt and most inspiring episode, Lisa sits down with Catherine and Alicia Denham—the visionary clinical duo behind Mama Owls Minis, Licensed Clinical Social Workers and Registered Play Therapist-Supervisors with over 40 years of combined experience. Together, they explore the messy, meaningful, and magical journey of creativity in play therapy, inviting listeners to reconnect with their inner artist and trust their instincts. This episode dives deep into how therapists can embrace creativity—not as a quest to be “good at art,” but as a powerful process of authentic...

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Special: Ableism & Disablism in the Playroom: A Conversation with Marshall Lyles show art Special: Ableism & Disablism in the Playroom: A Conversation with Marshall Lyles

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How does ableism show up in the playroom, and what can we do to create a more inclusive therapeutic space? In this powerful episode, Marshall Lyles (LMFT-S, LPC-S, RPT-S, EMDRIA Approved Consultant) joins Lisa Dion to explore the often unspoken realities of ableism and disablism in play therapy. Marshall, a leading voice in attachment trauma and sandtray therapy, brings invaluable insights into how therapists can become more aware of the biases and systemic structures that impact neurodivergent and disabled clients. 🔹 Uncover how ableism—both personal and institutional—has shaped the...

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192. The Final Little Lessons Series: What to Do When You’re Overwhelmed in the Playroom show art 192. The Final Little Lessons Series: What to Do When You’re Overwhelmed in the Playroom

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Lisa is back with the final episode of the Little Lessons Series, wrapping up this heartfelt Q&A journey by answering your powerful questions including how to navigate moments when connection feels disrupted—whether by a child’s shutdown, caregiver dynamics, or those uncomfortable "I don't know what to do" feelings that arise in the therapy process. In this episode, you’ll hear: Tracy’s question: “What do you do when a child goes into shutdown mode?” Lisa explains how to recognize the signs of a shutdown, why it happens from a nervous system perspective, and how to stay attuned...

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Special: Mandalas in Play Therapy: A Transformative Tool for Healing with Tracy Turner-Bumberry show art Special: Mandalas in Play Therapy: A Transformative Tool for Healing with Tracy Turner-Bumberry

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Have you explored the power of mandalas in play therapy? In this episode, Lisa Dion sits down with Tracy Turner-Bumberry (LPC, RPT-S™) to uncover the transformative magic of mandalas—an incredible yet often unexplored tool in clinical practice. Tracy, a Certified AutPlay Trainer, Animal-Assisted Play Therapist, and DBT Therapist, shares how mandalas can create a safe, expressive, and healing space for children and families. 🔹 Discover what mandalas are and their deep multicultural roots 🔹 Learn how "circle art" and "circle play" can demystify mandalas for therapy 🔹 Explore...

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191. Little Lessons Series: Addressing Hesitation, Aggressive Play, and Emotional Boundaries in Play Therapy show art 191. Little Lessons Series: Addressing Hesitation, Aggressive Play, and Emotional Boundaries in Play Therapy

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Lisa is back with another episode of the Little Lessons Series, answering your insightful questions about navigating the complexities of the playroom. Today’s episode focuses on how to handle those challenging moments in therapy where uncertainty, emotional flooding, and parents’ concerns come into play. In this episode, you’ll hear: Chrissy’s question: “What do you do when a child can’t decide on what to play with or doesn’t even play after coming for weeks?” Lisa breaks down how to navigate moments of hesitation, offering insights on how to remain present and supportive...

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Original Air Date: July 19, 2022

In this playful and insightful episode, Lisa is joined by Certified Synergetic Play Therapists Andrea Davidson, Johanna Simmons, and Rachel Freeburg for a lively discussion on the beauty and power of messes in the playroom. From spilled paint to sensory chaos, they dive into the therapeutic opportunities that arise when we embrace the mess.

Here’s what you’ll discover:

  • How to explain and normalize messy play to parents and caregivers, helping them see its value;
  • Turning messes into teachable moments for boundaries, containment, and personal growth;
  • Supporting children in expressing themselves and meeting sensory needs through messy play;
  • Deciding when (and when not) to have a child clean up based on their treatment goals;
  • Tools and strategies for therapists to stay within their window of tolerance when messiness gets overwhelming; and
  • How to understand and approach messes through the lens of nervous system regulation and dysregulation.

🎧 Tune in to transform how you see messes in the playroom and discover practical tips for integrating messy play into your practice with confidence and ease. Let’s get messy! 🎨✨

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