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Episode 23 – Disaggregation and a new project to tackle homelessness

Listen Up Landlords podcast

Release Date: 11/30/2022

Episode 61: New rules on pets and the student landlord challenge show art Episode 61: New rules on pets and the student landlord challenge

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With implementation of the Renters’ Rights Act now just a few months away, we look at two key elements of the legislation – new rules on pets and the unique challenges faced by student landlords. Presenters Ben Beadle and Richard Blanco are joined by Sandy Bastin, Director of Resolution, of the Tenancy Deposit Scheme (TDS) and Scott Fryer, policy manager at Battersea Dogs & Cats Home. With many landlords concerned about pet damage, Sandy outlines the scale of the issue, outlining the importance of detailed condition reports pre-tenancy, and how to approach claims, with Scott addressing...

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Presenters Ben Beadle and Richard Blanco host a special festive edition of NRLA podcast Listen Up Landlords, looking back over the last 12 months and ahead to what 2026 has in store. Ben and Richard are joined by Russell Quirk, founder of Proper PR, Andy Graham from the HMO Podcast, Kim Opszala, landlord and founder of Komo Properties and Lucian Cook, Head of UK Residential Research at Savills. They unpack the latest on all things private rented sector, and reflect on the changes up ahead in 2026, from the implementation of the to the rollout of and the Government’s proposals on They also...

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Days after Chancellor Rachel Reeves delivered her second budget, we take a deep dive into what the announcements mean for you.  Rates of income tax from property income will increase by two percentage points from April 2027, a move which the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) has recognised will hit landlords in the pocket, force rents up and hit the supply of homes. Other measures that will affect landlords include a so-called ‘mansion tax’ – a council tax surcharge which will be introduced for properties valued at over £2 million and will be...

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HMRC tax boss Jonathan Athow joins presenters Ben and Richard to talk all things  ahead of next year’s April deadline. Jonathan, who is Director General for Customer Strategy and Tax Design at HMRC, answers key questions on how the new system will work, and what landlords can do now to prepare. Landlords with an eligible income above £50,000 will need to join MTD in April 2026, those with over £30,000 in April 2027, with incomes over £20,000 mandated in April 2028. Now, with just six months to go until the first date, it’s vital you make sure you know what your obligations will...

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  Leading economist Paul Johnson, former director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies and now provost of Queen's College Oxford, joins the Listen Up Landlords team this month, following months of speculation on landlord tax.  Paul debunks the myth that landlords are under-taxed relative to owner-occupiers and warns that any moves to make it more expensive to be a landlord will mean higher rents and fewer properties available to rent – a point the NRLA has been hammering home to Government for some time.  With on everything from Capital Gains Tax through to Stamp...

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Selling with tenants in situ is becoming increasingly popular according to new NRLA partner Landlord Property Exchange (LPE), and this month NRLA CEO Ben Beadle and Richard Blanco look at the pros and cons of this approach. LPE founder James Donohue joins the team, along with landlord Sandra Towers who has sold a number of tenanted properties in this way, and said the approach can work well for all involved. Hannah Kenyon, of the NRLA’s landlord support team, discusses the calls the association has been receiving on student tenancies, with the new academic year set to start in the coming...

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Episode 55: Pets amendment and solving the empty homes crisis show art Episode 55: Pets amendment and solving the empty homes crisis

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  n this month's episode of presenters NRLA chief executive Ben Beadle and Richard Blanco welcome Lord de Clifford, the peer responsible for tabling the latest pet amendment to the   A Government amendment last month reversed an earlier pledge that would have allowed landlords to require damage insurance as a condition of accepting a pet.  However, Lord de Clifford, a crossbench member of the House of Lords, , which would enable landlords to take an additional ‘pet deposit’ of three weeks’ rent where a pet request is accepted – something the NRLA has been...

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In this month's episode of Listen Up Landlords presenters NRLA chief executive Ben Beadle and Richard Blanco discuss last month’s spending review – with the private rented sector notable by its absence. Richard and Ben are joined by Chris Walker of Chamberlain Walker Economics and Russell Quirk, co-founder of ProperPR to talk about the Government’s spending plans, with £39billion allocated for social homes to rent over the next 10 years.  They examine the 1.5 million housebuilding target over the next four years and look at the challenges and opportunities up ahead – and...

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In this month's episode of  presenters NRLA chief executive Ben Beadle and Richard Blanco discuss the timetable for change once the gets Royal Assent. Richard and Ben are joined by Robin Stewart a partner at Anthony Gold solicitors and Andrew Ralph, managing director for lettings from of Leaders Romans Group to talk about the timetable for change – and potential sticking points. Hannah Kenyon, representing the NRLA support team, talks about the calls coming into the phone lines this month, focussing on r And Alex Nolan, senior training manager, joins the team to discuss...

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In this episode of Listen Up Landlords presenters NRLA Chief Executive Ben Beadle (@BeadleBen) and Richard Blanco (@richardblanco_)  talk to Daryn Brewer, Managing Director of house share company Prop Pods about the issue of disaggregation.

Disaggregation sees Houses in Multiple Occupation (HMOs) split into individual units for taxation purposes, rather than the property being treated as a single dwelling. Where this happens landlords can see council tax bills soar by thousands of pounds

Supported by the NRLA, Daryn is spearheading a campaign to change the law to prevent this happening. He explains the impact of disaggregation on landlords and what he wants to happen next.

Danny McKeown- Henshall, of the NRLA advice team, looks at the issues concerning landlords contacting our support line this month, from mould and condensation to changing legislation in Wales.

And later Chief Executive of Crisis, Matt Downie joins the show to talk about a new project set up by the charity in conjunction with the NRLA to help formerly homeless people and households into private rented accommodation.

As part of the scheme, landlords who work with Crisis will be offered the full support of NRLA membership and training, whilst tenants will be guided by Crisis’ expert housing and support teams.  

Matt explains more about the scheme, the benefits of getting involved for landlords and tenants and how you can get involved.

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For all podcast enquiries email press@nrla.org.uk  

ACCREDITATION: You can now pick up a CPD point to be used towards NRLA accreditation by listening to the podcast. To log your point, visit the accreditation dashboard in the ‘Your Account’ section of the NRLA website. Select ‘Other’ then ‘NRLA Podcast’ from the dropdown menu. 

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To download a transcript of the podcast click here.

If you would like further details on how to become accredited with the NRLA click here.

For more information on the NRLA and Crisis project click here.