142 I Knew I Was Catholic When...A Conversation with Cameron Bertuzzi
The Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
Release Date: 01/28/2025
The Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
π΅ Join Matthew on a MARIAN Shrines PILGRIMAGE to Fatima, Lourdes, and more in 2026: π‘ Watch Course 1 of the Science of Sainthood: INTRODUCTION TO REAL PRAYER for FREE: π SUPPORT this podcast and Matthew's work to spread the Catholic faith: It's a simple, yet profound question. Is God a person or an idea to you? Seriously, take a moment and think about it. Do you really see him as a person or is he some kind of ethereal idea floating up in the heavens? For a lot of us - if we're being honest with ourselves - tend to think of him in non-personal terms. He's this force or...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
Have you ever thought about the fact that God is wounded? Yes, the Church teaches that God is impassable in his nature and cannot suffer. But as the God-man, Jesus Christ suffered and died out of his great love for us and mysteriously carries these wounds into eternity. And there's a sense that this divine vulnerability to wounds and suffering is still present by the loss of souls that Christ loves so fiercely. It's a deeply fascinating and powerful topic that has a lot of implications for how we are to approach both God and the spiritual life in general. And it's the topic of a...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
What lessons does a parish priest who battled the Devil (and won) have to share with us? Matthew Leonard is joined by author Kevin Wells who has published a great, very unique little book that shares the practical secrets of a holy life from St. John Vianney, the CurΓ© of Ars. π΅ Join Matthew on a Marian Shrines PILGRIMAGE to Fatima, Lourdes, and more in 2026: π‘ Start your spiritual transformation right now! Watch Course 1 of the Science of Sainthood: Catholic Mysticism & the Beautiful Life of Grace for FREE: - No credit card required - No cancellation - Just sign up and watch: π ...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
Matthew Leonard is joined by author and professor John Mark Miravalle to discuss what beauty is - and why it matters. π΅ Join Matthew on a Marian Shrines PILGRIMAGE to Fatima, Lourdes, and more in 2026: π‘ Start your spiritual transformation right now for FREE with the Science of Sainthood: π SUPPORT this podcast and Matthew's work to spread the Catholic faith: https://bit.ly/3VmgZOO Given the joyful peal of St. Peter's bells still echoing around the world marking the election of our new Holy Father, it's the perfect time to talk about beauty. After all, beauty is at the...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
Matthew Leonard is joined by Father Wayne Sattler, who lived the contemplative life as a hermit for years and has great wisdom to share on the spiritual life. π See the Group Starter Pack for Introduction to Real Prayer! π΅ Sign Up for the FREE Lent Streaming! π’ Purchase an Introduction to Real Prayer Workbook from Science of Sainthood - π΅ Purchase an Introduction to Real Prayer Workbook from Amazon - https://amzn.to/4i7y2h9 If I say "hermit", what's the first thing that comes to mind? An ancient Desert Father wearing a burlap sack, nappy beard, living a life of self-denial in a...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
π‘ π’ π Episode Description When one of your closest friends dedicates 20 years of his life to a project, it's going to come up from time to time in conversation. And when that project relates to something that you're passionate about too, then you know those conversations are going to be powerful. AND when that good friend just happens to be Curtis Mitch, Co-Editor of the new Ignatius Press Study Bible, and that conversation takes place on the Art of Catholic podcast... ...it makes for an episode you're definitely not going to want to miss! In...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
Lesson One of a beautiful, crash course on everything you need to know to move into a deeper, more fulfilling life of prayer according to the saints. This incredible series from Matthew Leonard will stream FREE this Lent. π‘ ! π’ π΅ If youβve ever struggled to pray or find it difficult to take your relationship with God to the next level, youβve got to see this new series from Matthew Leonard and the Science of Sainthood! βOutstanding!!! Thank you!β "I was so skeptical...just thought here's another program to do. I am amazed at the things I have experienced in...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
π‘ SIGN UP for the totally FREE Lenten Series on Prayer: π SUPPORT Matthew Leonard's work to spread the Catholic faith: https://bit.ly/3VqCONa Watch the full interview with Cameron Bertuzzi here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTglQJoqWtc It's hard to believe, but more than 26 years have passed since I became Catholic. Even so, I still get asked on a fairly regular basis about my conversion story. And I totally get it. Everyone loves a conversion story. After all, it's inspiring to hear about all the little winks and nudges from God - not to mention all the momentous,...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
In this episode of the Art of Catholic, Matthew Leonard is joined by author Kevin Wells, who shares the powerful story of his wife Krista's battle with alcoholism, the impact it had on his spiritual life - and the incredible redemption God brought through the figure of a saintly priest. π‘ Sign up for a totally FREE 2-week trial of the Science of Sainthood program: no credit card required, no cancellation, just sign up and watch! π’ Get Kevin's book, The Hermit: The Priest Who Saved a Soul, a Marriage, and a Family, here: π΅ Watch my last interview with Kevin Wells, Priest &...
info_outlineThe Art of Catholic with Matthew Leonard
Give it 3 minutes and you won't turn it off. This is a truly powerful and moving story of a man, a woman, and bevy of children who live a life totally abandoned to God...even in the midst of gut-wrenching sorrow and suffering. If you can listen without being inspired in some way, you may need to check your pulse. That's all I can say. Matthew π΅ PLEASE consider donating to the Henderson family to enable them to continue their mission work: π‘ Start your spiritual transformation right now! Sign up for a totally FREE 2-week trial of the Science of Sainthood program: no credit...
info_outlineπ‘ SIGN UP for the totally FREE Lenten Series on Prayer: https://bit.ly/40wDq6C
π SUPPORT Matthew Leonard's work to spread the Catholic faith: https://bit.ly/3VqCONa
Watch the full interview with Cameron Bertuzzi here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTglQJoqWtc
It's hard to believe, but more than 26 years have passed since I became Catholic.
Even so, I still get asked on a fairly regular basis about my conversion story.
And I totally get it. Everyone loves a conversion story.
After all, it's inspiring to hear about all the little winks and nudges from God - not to mention all the momentous, life-changing, divine thunderbolts that God uses to draw his beloved children home to the Church.
I had my fair share...and then some.
That said, conversion is normally a process. It takes time.
And for me, part of it was the pursuit of a deeper spiritual life.
I unexpectedly found something in the Catholic faith that I never quite did as a Protestant.
And I recently sat down with a young man named Cameron Bertuzzi on his very popular podcast Capturing Christianity to share that part of my story.
Today's Art of Catholic podcast contains an excerpt from that interview.
In this episode, Cameron and I discuss the massive role the spiritual life of the Church played in my conversion, as well as the ways in which my understanding and practice of the spiritual life exploded once I became Catholic.
During our conversation, I also address some of the practicalities I learned were involved in the spiritual life, such as:
- The stages of spiritual growth
- The teachings of the saints on how to pray
- How it all works together
- ...And much more!
This is a unique conversation that people have told me they've found truly helpful.
God bless,
Matthew