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The Condition of Palestine as the Condition of the World with Dylan Saba

Millennials Are Killing Capitalism

Release Date: 03/06/2025

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In this episode, we are joined by Dalton Lackey and Teagan Murphy, co-authors of the article “The COVID-19 Murders”: Prison death-worlds and the fatal convenience of crisis. Their work offers a piercing critique of how carceral institutions weaponized the pandemic—not as an unprecedented emergency, but as a tactical opportunity to deepen control, dehumanization, and death. We’ll begin by hearing from Dalton and Teagan about their political motivations, the methodologies they employed, and the intellectual scaffolding behind their analysis. From there, we’ll unpack their challenge to...

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In this episode recorded mid-2024, Josh spoke with Dylan Saba about some of his essays beginning with one titled  "A Struggle to Destroy the World,” where he argued that the condition of Palestine is the condition of the modern world. We discuss the role of the Iron Dome as an offensive system, its historical context, and its implications for the colonial-imperialist power imbalance in the region. Saba also provides an overview of the strategic use of aid as a weapon to maintain control, division, and weaken Palestinian resistance. We also touch on how the Israeli military's inability to defeat Hamas forces the US and Israel to adopt different strategies of counterinsurgency in an effort to try to replace Hamas with a more compliant Palestinian authority.

Dylan Saba is a civil rights attorney and writer who lives in New York City. He works at Palestine Legal, where he represents individuals and groups in the US who are facing suppression for supporting Palestinian rights. He has written about Palestine and other issues for a variety of publications, including The Nation, n+1, Jewish Currents, American Prospect, and The Baffler.

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This episode was produced and edited by Aidan Elias. Music by Televangel.