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Episode 296 - The Mind of a Blender with Nancy Fraley

The Modern Bar Cart Podcast

Release Date: 04/10/2025

Episode 311 - Flavor Attractors with Dr. Kevin Peterson show art Episode 311 - Flavor Attractors with Dr. Kevin Peterson

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In part two of my exploration of flavor and memory with , some of the topics we discuss include: What the Big 5 personality index (also known as OCEAN) might be able to teach us about how guests think about factors like novelty and comfort in the cocktails they enjoy. The difference between the highest-rated drink (on average) on most Castalia menus, versus the highest-rated drinks for specific individuals. How people respond when asked to describe their ideal cocktail - including the aesthetics and memories they tended to focus on, and which qualities they most often left out of the...

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Episode 310 - Data-Driven Drinks with Dr. Kevin Peterson show art Episode 310 - Data-Driven Drinks with Dr. Kevin Peterson

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In this data-driven conversation with , some of the topics we discuss include: How winding down Castalia and Sfumato after a decade of service provided the impetus for , and why Kevin has set out to address a very different set of questions than in his last book, Cocktail Theory. Why matching a person with their ideal drink is very different (and much more difficult, it turns out) from trying to make the optimal Old Fashioned or Negroni or Daiquiri. This leads to a conversation about all the variables that go into cocktail preference: sweetness, acidity, bitterness, booziness,...

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Episode 309 - The Donn of Tiki with Alex Lamb and Max Well show art Episode 309 - The Donn of Tiki with Alex Lamb and Max Well

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In this fascinating conversation with Max Well and Alex Lamb, directors of , some of the topics we discuss include: How a COVID-era YouTube short on the history of Tiki in LA snowballed into a full-length feature film on one of the most iconic bar entrepreneurs of the 20th century: Ernest Gantt, AKA Donn Beach, AKA "Don the Beachcomber." The way that stop-motion puppetry and clever era-appropriate animations were used to give Donn an embodied presence in his own story, with audio unearthed from a single set of tapes uncovered at the University of Hawaii. The interesting ironies that run...

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Episode 308 - Your Whiskey Math is Bullsh*t show art Episode 308 - Your Whiskey Math is Bullsh*t

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Eric kicks off 2026 with an audio essay rant targeted at the ham-fisted "percentage" math that people use to answer the question: "How much of a whiskey's flavor comes from the barrel?" In the censored words of George Carlin: "It's all BS, and it's bad for ya." To demonstrate this, we sift through GC-MS whiskey sample results, human neurobiology, and behavioral economics. In the end, it's a poorly posed question invented to solve a problem that doesn't exist, and it colors our expectations about flavor in harmful ways.

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Episode 307 - Sacred Serves: The Rituals that Make Drinking Human show art Episode 307 - Sacred Serves: The Rituals that Make Drinking Human

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This time around, we’ll be taking a look at drinking rituals from around the world. A few months back, my friend  asked me to write an article about drinking rituals for her new publication, . She has graciously agreed to let me read the article on-air and give you all a bit of a “Director’s Cut” version of the article, entitled: . For those of you who have the opportunity to enjoy a few drinks with family and friends this holiday season, I hope some of these thoughts about the importance of ritual, hospitality, gratitude, and the sometimes radical act of coming together can help...

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Episode 306 - The Bartender's Manifesto with Toby Maloney show art Episode 306 - The Bartender's Manifesto with Toby Maloney

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Eric interviews Toby Maloney () about his award-winning book, . Some of the topics covered in this conversation include: How Toby thinks about cocktail development, including the importance of inspiration, intention, comfort, and curiosity The importance of curated attention in the creative process, allowing you to notice aspects  of the world around you that can be used as inspiration and structural components for cocktail building A live cocktail development case study, where Toby and Eric riff on a menu prompt and create their very own custom cocktail worthy of inclusion on a...

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Episode 305 - Building Iconic Bar Programs with Toby Maloney show art Episode 305 - Building Iconic Bar Programs with Toby Maloney

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In this modern classic conversation with bartender and beverage consultant , some of the topics we discuss include: Toby’s journey through the food and beverage world, from bussing and dishwashing, to culinary school, to tending bar, eventually landing gigs at famous venues like Milk & Honey, and Pegu Club, and going on to open The Violet Hour in Chicago. The decisions and philosophies (plus the techniques and ingredients) that allowed Toby and his cohort at The Violet Hour to open the hearts and minds of the people of Chicago to the paradigm shift that was the Cocktail Renaissance....

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Episode 304 - The Cigar Blend Dilemma with Maggie Kimberl show art Episode 304 - The Cigar Blend Dilemma with Maggie Kimberl

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In this smokey, robust conversation with cigar and whiskey expert (), some of the topics we discuss include: A working definition of “cigar blend whiskey,” plus some specific thoughts on the ideal proof point for these types of blends. The two primary pairing strategies that you can use to pair any two items in the flavor world, whether you’re talking about wine and food, whiskey and cigars, or even building the perfect charcuterie bite. How to think about “flexibility” in the whiskey and cigar pairing space. Essentially: is a given whiskey designed to pair with a wide range of...

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Episode 303 - The Official Rum of Leisure with Malcolm Gosling Jr. show art Episode 303 - The Official Rum of Leisure with Malcolm Gosling Jr.

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In this smooth-sailing conversation with Malcolm Gosling Jr., 8th generation steward of the company, some of the topics we discuss include: How a lapsed ship charter to Virginia kicked off the Gosling family’s spirited enterprise on the humble 21 square mile rock in the middle of the Atlantic known as Bermuda. The ways in which Goslings rum both conforms to and expands what most rum nerds think of when they hear the term “British-style Caribbean rum,” and why the family’s roots in sourcing, blending, and retail are key to the entire flavor profile and identity. We also dig into...

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Episode 302 - Shop Talk: On-Premise Positioning for Spirits Brands show art Episode 302 - Shop Talk: On-Premise Positioning for Spirits Brands

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View the video of this seminar:  What’s shakin’ drinks fans? Thanks for joining me for this special industry shop talk episode, where I give you a free, behind-the-scenes look at some of the content I produce specifically for people who work in the spirits and cocktail industry. This time around, you’ll get to sit in on a seminar I presented a few weeks ago at the 2025 American Distilling Institute Conference & Trade show in San Antonio, TX. The title of the seminar is: “You’ve Been Served: On Premise Strategies for a Saturated Market," and it presents a bunch of different...

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In this cask-strength conversation with spirits judge, educator, and master blender Nancy Fraley, some of the topics we discuss include:

  • Nancy’s journey to spirits blending, from Harvard Divinity School, to maritime law, to her apprenticeship under the legendary brandy maker Germain Robin.

  • The story of the first Cigar Blend Bourbon (developed, of course, by Nancy) and how she weaves together factors like fermentation style, maturation humidity, cask finishes, and more to achieve the elusive flavor note known as rancio.

  • A crash course in blending theory, which draws on architectural and corporeal metaphors to describe how to build flavor profiles in barrel-aged spirits

  • Why the terms “master distiller” and “master blender” have become watered down in recent decades, which underscores the importance of humble practice day after day, year after year, in the pursuit of world-class distillates.

  • We also explore the tension between the intellect and the instinct in spirits blending, using Nancy’s experiences to illustrate how and when to let the wisdom of the body triumph over the chaos of “monkey mind” and the dance of contingency.

  • Along the way, we divulge the connection between French brandy and rotting pheasant, trace the story of an all-but-forgotten yeast strain, share how you can sign up to taste some of the rankest, most flawed distillates in Nancy’s “Nosing for Faults” class, 

  • And much, much more.

This episode was made possible with editing and sound design by Samantha Reed, whiskey blending insights and some delicious pours brought to you by Nancy Fraley, and support from The American Distilling Institute. This has been a Direct Fire Studios production, copyright 2025.