Why So Many Real Estate Investors Are Burnt Out w/ Ashley Kehr
Release Date: 07/31/2025
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info_outlineFeeling burnt out? You’re not the only investor hitting that wall.
Long hours, back-to-back deals, tenants, contractors, financing, and the never-ending pressure to grow. You got into real estate for time freedom and financial independence, but somewhere along the way, it started to feel like just another grind.
Here’s the truth most investors won’t say out loud: Burnout isn’t a rite of passage, it’s a red flag. And ignoring it can cost you more than just momentum; it can eat away at your health, relationships, and your reason for investing in the first place.
But what if there’s another way to build wealth? A shift from burnout to balance. It’s not about more doors, bigger portfolios, or chasing status. It’s about designing a real estate business that gives you the life you actually want.
In this episode, I’m joined by Ashley Kehr, a rental property investor and co-host of the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast.
She shares her journey of stepping off the hamster wheel and into a simpler, more powerful version of success. One built around freedom, clarity, and sustainability.
Things You’ll Learn In This Episode
-Opportunities in real estate investing
Real estate investing can offer more than financial security; it can create freedom, flexibility, and a lifestyle on your terms. What other opportunities can real estate investing open up?
-Shiny object syndrome
New entrepreneurs and investors often fall into the trap of chasing trendy opportunities instead of staying focused on proven strategies. How do we focus on moving the needle instead of the next big thing?
-Build a firm foundation
Start by leveraging your strengths and skills, then pursue your passions once you've established a solid foundation. How can focusing on current strengths pave the way for achieving long-term goals?
Guest Bio
Ashley Kehr is the co-host of the Real Estate Rookie Podcast. Just a few years removed from being a beginner herself, Ashley is now helping newbies figure out actionable steps to get their first deal. She has a dual degree in finance and public accounting and recently became a licensed insurance agent. Ashley purchased her first rental property in 2014 and, since then, has grown her buy-and-hold portfolio to over 30 units. She has experience in residential and commercial properties. She attributes much of her success to the use of partners on several real estate deals and creative financing.
Ashley developed a passion for real estate after quitting her staff accountant job to work as a property manager. Within several years, she had created two property management companies, which she ran for over five years. Her specialty was creating systems to work efficiently and remotely within companies.
Currently, Ashley outsources property management and spends her time educating new investors and finding deals to BRRRR.
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About Your Host
From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.
His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.
Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.
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