“What If We Get It Right?” marine biologist & climate action author Ayana Elizabeth Johnson asks
Release Date: 09/24/2024
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info_outlineMarine biologist and climate policy advocate Ayana Elizabeth Johnson joins this episode to discuss her latest book, What If We Get It Right? Visions of Climate Futures, a compilation of essays and interviews with experts and authors in the climate and environmental fields.
Her book sensitively probes the problems human society faces and potential pathways to address environmental injustice, from the unsustainable industrialization of our food systems to the inequity (or lack) of climate policy in many places.
Co-host Mike DiGirolamo speaks with Johnson about key insights from her book’s array of interviews, plus lessons learned from fighting for climate policy herself in the form of a “Blue New Deal.”
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Image Credit: Ayana Elizabeth Johnson holding a copy of her book “What If We Get It Right? Visions of Climate Futures.” Image courtesy of Ayana Elizabeth Johnson.
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Timecodes
(00:00) Introduction
(01:06) What If We Get It Right? A brief review
(05:10) The barriers to change
(09:20) What is 'biophilia'?
(10:42) Agriculture doesn't have to be this way
(12:52) Unsung advice
(16:12) It's all about heat pumps
(18:36) The role of media in covering protests
(21:50) An ocean policy odyssey
(25:43) Credits