From Commodity to Consultant: Elevating Your Client Relationships
Release Date: 07/17/2025
Sam Glynn | Why Good Compliance Isn't Enough and How to Do Better
MSP Business School
In this engaging episode of MSP Business School, host Brian Doyle is joined by Sam Glynn—a notable figure in the GRC landscape—to pull back the curtain on the intricacies of compliance within MSPs. Sam Glynn shares his wealth of expertise from a career that has advanced from IT management in financial services to becoming a specialist in cybersecurity and compliance. Listeners are introduced to the significance of GRC, particularly how MSPs can align themselves with increasing regulatory demands while fostering profitability and customer satisfaction. The episode delves into the hurdles...
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Ian Richardson | Unmasking the Million-Dollar Mistakes in MSP Sales
MSP Business School
In this episode of the MSP Business School, host Brian Doyle is joined by Ian Richardson of Fox and Crow to discuss the critical topic of growth for Managed Service Providers (MSPs) and common sales pitfalls. Ian shares his journey from the founding to the eventual sale of his MSP and highlights key lessons learned from mistakes in outbound sales practices. The conversation delves into the scientific approach and data-driven insights that can help MSPs overcome the stagnation typically faced once initial networks and referrals are exhausted. The discussion focuses on the importance of...
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Brian Hoppe | The MSP Scaling Secrets Nobody Is Talking About
MSP Business School
In this enlightening episode of MSP Business School, host Brian Doyle sits down with Brian Hoppe to dig deep into the dynamic world of Managed Service Providers. With decades of experience under his belt, Hoppe shares invaluable insights on navigating the tricky terrain of business growth, from the nascent stages to gearing up for exit strategies. The discussion opens up at IT Nation, a gathering close to Hoppe’s heart for its opportunities to reconnect and expand within the MSP community, setting the stage for a conversation rich in experience and industry insight. Tackling the trajectory...
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Bobby Jacobs | Why MSPs Must Evolve or Exit
MSP Business School
In this engaging episode of MSP Business School, host Brian Doyle welcomes guest Bobby Jacobs from Thread, an AI-driven service delivery platform. Their discussion centers around Bobby’s journey to becoming a leader at Thread, his entrepreneurial background, and the continuous evolution within the MSP community driven by AI technological advancements. As they reminisce about their recent meetup at IT Nation, Bobby sheds light on how Thread has grown beyond just a typical service provider to being an innovator mentioned for changing service delivery paradigms with AI. Bobby Jacobs explores...
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Dave Maik | Navigating the New Era of Email: What MSPs Need to Know
MSP Business School
In this episode of MSP Business School, host Brian Doyle welcomes Dave Maik from Valley Mail. The conversation dives into the evolution of technology and security solutions within the MSP space, highlighting how Valley Mail is addressing the growing need for robust email security protocols. Dave sheds light on his journey through various tech transformations since the mid-90s, emphasizing the morphing of traditional computing into cloud-based solutions and the critical role of MSPs in maintaining security. The discussion provides an insightful overview of the current challenges businesses...
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Beau Butaud | How MSPs Can Turn SOC 2 Readiness Into a Competitive Advantage
MSP Business School
In this engaging episode of MSP Business School, host Brian Doyle welcomes Beau Butaud from Render Compliance. Beau shares his insights on navigating the complex world of SOC 2 compliance, emphasizing the importance of aligning SOC 2 audits with customer requirements and industry standards. With the rising demand for security and compliance in the MSP community, this episode is a deep dive into the nuances of governance, risk, and compliance that are critical for businesses handling sensitive data. The conversation begins with Beau's professional journey, highlighting his decision to...
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Jesse Miller | The Hidden Goldmine MSPs Are Overlooking
MSP Business School
In this episode of the MSP Business School podcast, host Brian Doyle welcomes Jesse Miller from PowerPSA Consulting to discuss the importance and structuring of vCISO programs in MSPs. Jesse shares his journey from a CISO of an MSP to founding PowerPSA Consulting, emphasizing the need for MSPs to offer vCISO services to enhance client value and expand recurring revenue. This engaging discussion explores the primary hurdles MSPs face in implementing and monetizing these services, delivering actionable insights and practical advice for listeners. Jesse Miller elaborates on how MSPs can become...
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Zulfiya Forsythe | What Happens When an MSP and AI Expert Join Forces
MSP Business School
Join Brian Doyle on the latest episode of MSP Business School, where he sits down with Zulfiya Forsythe from the Omaldi Group. Zulfiya shares her experience entering the MSP sector and how accidents in work collaborations often create remarkable opportunities for business growth. As a data analytics expert, she discusses how her partnership with MSPs enhances client satisfaction by offering data-driven insights and AI-based automation. In this episode, Zulfiya Forsythe delves into the world of AI, exploring its vast capabilities and addressing common business challenges. Emphasizing the...
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Josh Kotler | How to Turn Your MSP into a Scalable, Sellable Machine
MSP Business School
Join Brian Doyle on the MSP Business School podcast as he delves into the essential strategies for MSPs aiming for a successful business exit. Brian is joined by expert guest Josh Kotler from Canyon Point, who shares insights into the world of mergers and acquisitions (M&A) and offers invaluable advice for MSPs contemplating their exit strategies. This episode will guide you through the stages and steps necessary to enhance your exit and achieve the most rewarding outcome. Kotler emphasizes the importance of reaching a $4-10 million revenue mark for MSPs. He explains that this growth is...
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Alex Farling | Building the Next Generation MSP
MSP Business School
In this engaging episode of MSP Business School, host Brian Doyle converses with Alex Farling, a notable name in the Managed Service Provider sector. The discussion revolves around Alex's rich professional journey, from his early days in corporate training to managing an MSP, and eventually co-founding Lifecycle Insights. The conversation highlights how current trends, specifically AI, are forging new paths for MSPs to transition into strategic advisors, rather than purely technical service providers. Focusing on the rise of AI and its influence in the MSP landscape, Alex elucidates how...
info_outlineIn this enlightening episode, Brian Doyle delves into the often-misunderstood world of strategic planning in customer success. While many in the industry are just starting to embrace strategy as a novel concept, Brian brings clarity and depth to the conversation by distinguishing between tactical and strategic initiatives. A frequent fixture on LinkedIn, Brian uses his platform to express his views on thriving as a service provider and how to leap from mere problem-solvers to proactive business partners.
Focusing on building joint strategic plans with customers, Brian underlines the importance of understanding client goals and challenges to foster trust and collaboration. The episode highlights the nuances of technology roadmaps, warning against the oversimplification of categorizing them as strategic plans. Instead, it critiques this oversimplification as a failure to advance business outcomes. Detailed discussions cover how service providers can become indispensable by connecting technology services with client business goals, outlining the necessity of evolving as management consultants to enhance client relationships and secure long-term partnerships.
Key Takeaways:
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Differentiating strategic initiatives from tactical tasks is crucial for service providers aiming to align closer with customer goals.
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Building joint strategic plans with customers helps establish a productive and transparent partnership, allowing for better alignment on shared goals.
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Understanding and utilizing current technologies can create low-cost, high-impact improvements in client operations, fostering trust.
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Reinforcing strategies with clear, cause-and-effect scenarios increases the perceived value and importance of proposed solutions.
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Ensuring customers are positioned as the hero in their stories, with service providers acting as expert guides, strengthens long-term relationships.
Show Website: https://mspbusinessschool.com/
Host Brian Doyle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandoylevciotoolbox/
Sponsor vCIOToolbox: https://vciotoolbox.com