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NOT ABOUT YOU | Episode 9 Alfonso Wenker

Not About You

Release Date: 12/18/2016

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Enzi Tanner is a Community Safety Organizer at Jewish Community Action(JCA). He's also a licensed social worker who has spent the past two decades focused on police brutality & police violence. In this episode, Enzi talks about the ways being a Black, trans, disabled, Jew impacts the way he thinks about public safety & how he shows up in community. 

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“Why are you Korean-American and from Minnesota?”

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Resmaa Menakem released a racialized trauma e-course in 2019 to work in concert with 'My Grandmother's Hands.' This is a reissue of his appearance in 2018 with a brief new opening about the e-course.  “For 400 years you have not had to address this.” - Resmaa Menakem Resmaa Menakem talks about his work and the goals of his book 'My Grandmother's Hands,' including the healing needed around racialized trauma, the different approaches needed for different bodies, and whose responsibility it is to engage with the work of racial and social justice. MSW, LICSW, S.E.P. has appeared on both...

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“When white people make roses, they’re just f***ing roses!”

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“There’s a big difference between lived equality and legal equality.” Nancy has been locally and nationally recognized for her role as owner and CEO of . She is co-author of “Interactive Project Management: Pixels, People, and Process” (New Riders, 2012) and author of the upcoming book, “How to Win at Business by Being Nice to Humans.” She serves as the Chair Emeritus of the National Board of Directors of the Family Equality Council, is on the Board of Trustees at Minnesota Public Radio, is on the Open Twin Cities Advisory Board, is on the Amplified Voices Board, and is a member...

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“Health is not a moral imperative.” On this episode, fat feminist Cat Polivoda delves into body positivity, fat advocacy and what it takes to run her own business. She also talks about being a joyous person and explains what happens when we conflate thinness with health.  owns - a body positive, plus-size thrift shop in Minneapolis, MN. Focused on fostering a shop space and local community centered on radical self love and size-acceptance, she is dedicated to making plus-size fashion more accessible and affordable.  Cat also co-hosts Matter of Fat - a new podcast through KFAI...

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“Just because it’s journalism doesn’t mean it has to be unattractive. It can feel good, too.” Filiberto Nolasco Gomez grew up in a working-class Mexican community in Eastern Los Angeles. On this episode of the podcast, he talks about how much his name means to him and how challenging it seems to be for folks to pronounce it correctly. He also talks about citizenship, the real work of being a journalist, what music means to him and how masculinity operates as a means of survival and sometimes a barrier to connection.  Filiberto is the editor of , a publication focused on telling...

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This is a 3 minute sample with clips from a few episodes of Not About You. Check it out, share it, and then subscribe and listen to all of the episodes!

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“For 400 years you have not had to address this.” - Resmaa Menakem Resmaa Menakem talks about his work and the goals of his book 'My Grandmother's Hands,' including the healing needed around racialized trauma, the different approaches needed for different bodies, and whose responsibility it is to engage with the work of racial and social justice. MSW, LICSW, S.E.P. has appeared on both The Oprah Winfrey Show and Dr. Phil as an expert on conflict and violence. He has served as director of counseling services for the Tubman Family Alliance; as behavioral health director for African American...

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“My Thai-ness or sense of Thai identity is not up for anyone else to quantify based on how white I seem.” Tricia Heuring talks about being "racially ambiguous" and "automatically American." She shares her culture shock from arriving in the US at 18 having learned about her own American culture largely through television and American cultural items she had access to growing up in Egypt, Thailand, and Saudi Arabia. And Tricia shares how her lived experiences have given her a unique perspective as a curator and community organizer.   is a curator, arts organizer, and educator living...

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“When have I assumed shared experience, and when have I discovered shared experience?”

On this episode, Alfonso Wenker talks about using his own practice to be able to do the work of helping others and not making it about him. He explains the minimization mindset, re-centering experiences to preserve comfort and how folks can't get really clear about their own experiences.

Check out the Colorlines blog Alfonso suggests.

Here's where you can download the Reading List for White Folks

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Alfonso Wenker is facilitator, trainer, and philanthropic strategist. He is a total nerd about all things movement-building and philanthropy.

Alfonso fell in love with philanthropy as a nonprofit intern in 2006 and was hired by a LGBT community foundation in 2007 while still in college. He has been engaged in social change work since his early teens. His activism started in doing church-based service work followed by high school and college-campus organizing. Alfonso has a broad range of experience spanning training/facilitation, fundraising, event planning and program development.

He is a queer Latino born and raised in St. Paul, Minnesota. Alfonso has primarily worked with and for LGBT nonprofits in fundraising and grant-making.

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The premise of this show is simple. I wanted to ask marginalized folks to tell a white guy what question or questions they wish they never had to hear again. They did just that and I had them answer those question, hopefully for the last time.

Also, I've been a comedy writer and performer my entire adult life, so this show is full of jokes.

I’ve set up a voicemail line, 612-361-9261, where you can share comments, suggestions and personal stories of your own that may be used in future episodes of the podcast. If you tell me which episode you’re responding to, that will help me make follow up episodes with voicemail responses. Call 612-361-9261 with your questions, comments or stories.

-Levi Weinhagen