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Hogging the Blame for a Fire Loss

What's the Scenario? with PLRB

Release Date: 01/09/2026

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What's the Scenario? with PLRB

Right now we’re gearing up for next week’s PLRB Claims Conference. So this week, we’re sharing a recent episode discussing how to make the most of the PLRB Insurance Services Expo.   You're a new exhibitor, and you're excited and anxious about your first visit to the PLRB Claims Conference. How will you handle the rushes of attendees and the breaks between them? How will you build relationships that will last after you leave the Expo floor? What tone will you strike with members? Gemcor has been attending PLRB since 1984, just three years after our dad founded the company. It’s...

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Steven Badger from Zelle LLP joins us to talk about all the “hot topics” in the always interesting world of hail and other weather-related claims.  Steve will cover all the emerging trends in these claims, including current fraud and other abuse schemes, and provide his recommendations on how to address the common issues. He will also talk about what he is seeing with recent expanded use of the appraisal process.  Finally, Steve will talk about how his clients are addressing these issues through underwriting and policy wording changes. Notable Timestamps [ 00:07 ] - The episode...

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A supervisor leads a team of very needy CAT adjusters! Over the course of the year, the supervisor fields many questions as it comes up in their claims. Was there hail on X date? Was there lightning in the area? This hurricane is coming soon, where can I get news about it? Winter weather caused a slip and fall!! Where can I find information on wildfire perimeters and California evacuations? For help herding all these cats, we’ll head to PLRB.org.   Notable Timestamps [ 00:00 ] - The episode introduces a scenario where a supervisor fields constant weather-related questions from cat...

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What's the Scenario? with PLRB

You're a new exhibitor, and you're excited and anxious about your first visit to the PLRB Claims Conference. How will you handle the rushes of attendees and the breaks between them? How will you build relationships that will last after you leave the Expo floor? What tone will you strike with members? Gemcor has been attending PLRB since 1984, just three years after our dad founded the company. It’s the one conference we commit to every single year, and today we'll share our perspective.   Notable Timestamps [ 00:58 ] - In this scenario, a new exhibitor is hoping for success at the...

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Swine & Dine Farms underwent a devastating loss when a ventilation system shut off, resulting in the deaths of 2,400 hogs. Swine & Dine didn’t own the hogs: they were contract growers raising the hogs for an “integrator,” the contract owner of the animals who is not suing for the value of the lost hogs. What liability coverage is available for these folks?
 
Notable Timestamps

[ 00:41 ] - A ventilation failure led to the suffocation of thousands of hogs raised by a Contract Grower.

[ 04:47 ] - This scenario centers on farm commercial liability policies, not property coverage.

[ 05:20 ] - Standard farm liability forms often exclude damage to property in the insured’s care, custody, or control, with narrow exceptions that may not fit contract grower operations.

[ 07:45 ] - Adjusters should obtain and closely review the grower–integrator contract, as it may define ownership, responsibilities, and procedures that directly affect liability and coverage.

[ 08:46 ] - Force majeure clauses can limit or eliminate liability when losses arise from events beyond a party’s reasonable control, but their applicability depends on precise contract language.

[ 11:08 ] - Coverage and defense issues may diverge, requiring careful coordination when contracts include provisions that could waive recovery even if coverage defenses exist.

[ 12:51 ] - Brennan summarizes the key points above.

Your PLRB Resources

Recorded Webinar: Farm Bureau Town Hall Meeting - https://members.plrb.org/education/courses/farm-bureau-town-hall-meeting

CE Course: Specialized Equipment Losses - https://members.plrb.org/education/courses/specialized-equipment-losses

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The views and opinions expressed in this resource are those of the individual speaker and not necessarily those of the Property & Liability Resource Bureau (PLRB), its membership, or any organization with which the presenter is employed or affiliated. The information, ideas, and opinions are presented as information only and not as legal advice or offers of representation. Individual policy language and state laws vary, and listeners should rely on guidance from their companies and counsel as appropriate.

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