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Episode #257: Carnie Wilson, Shawn Kay, Jenny Brill (Brian Wilson, John Kay, Mitzi McCall, Charlie Brill)

Rarified Heir Podcast

Release Date: 10/14/2025

Episode #273: James Tomlinson (David Tomlinson) show art Episode #273: James Tomlinson (David Tomlinson)

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Today on another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we speak to James Tomlinson, the son of actor David Tomlinson. It’s not every day we talk to a guest who was on the set of Mary Poppins(cough) he wasn’t that impressed), met Walt Disney, received Christmas gifts from the Walt Disney Company each year because it’s not everyone whose father was Mary’s employer, Mr. Banks in one of Disney’s most beloved hit movies of all-time. While we do speak about James’ father’s career on the London stage and in films like Bedknobs and Brooksticks, Up The Creek & Warning for...

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Episode #272: Patricia Weidenfeld (Pat Cooper) (Part Two) show art Episode #272: Patricia Weidenfeld (Pat Cooper) (Part Two)

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Today on an another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we bring you part two of our conversation with Patricia Weidenfeld, daughter of comedian Pat Cooper. As you heard on the first episode, Weidenfeld’s life as a child of a show business comic was pretty terrific until it wasn’t. Learning rather abruptly at age eight that her father had a family prior to hers after being accosted outside a Broadway theater, Patricia tells us more on part two of our conversation than she has ever told anyone publicly, at any time before. It turns out that the Broadway incident was the first in a...

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Episode #271: Patricia Weidenfeld (Pat Cooper) (Part One) show art Episode #271: Patricia Weidenfeld (Pat Cooper) (Part One)

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Today on an another encore edition of the Rarified heir Podcast, we bring you part one of our conversation with Patricia Weidenfeld, daughter of ‘The Outrage Comic’, Pat Cooper. Known for his explosive (but funny) temper on stage and his somewhat rogue temperament in the business, Cooper’s humor revolved around his Italian heritage and calling out things that bothered him, his album cover parody, his seemingly endless Vegas showroom shows, a well-known Seinfeld episode and in later life, his time on The Howard Stern Show. We spoke to Patti about growing up with a father she loved dearly...

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Episode #270: Nabil Ayers (Roy Ayers) show art Episode #270: Nabil Ayers (Roy Ayers)

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Today on another episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Nabil Ayers, son of musician Roy Ayers, a jazz/funk/soul giant most famous for his song “Everybody Loves the Sunshine” and is likely one of the most sampled artists of all time. A vibraphonist, singer and composer, Ayers songs have been sampled by everyone from Dr. Dre, Mary J. Blige and Snoop Dogg as well as had  collaborations with Alicia Keyes, The Roots and Tyler, The Creator among others. As you will soon hear, Nabil’s story is unlike anything we have heard before on the podcast. Imagine growing up knowing...

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Episode #269: Anne Serling (Rod Serling) show art Episode #269: Anne Serling (Rod Serling)

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Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Anne Serling, daughter of the great writer and as we learn, practical joker and pop culture figure Rod Serling. Of course we talk to Anne about beloved anthology shows her father created like The Twilight Zone as well as The Night Gallery but we also talk to Anne about her father’s humanity, his years growing up in upstate New York, his religious beliefs and traditions, his career in radio, the films he wrote and much more. But we also hear from Anne about why she wrote a book about her father, As I Knew Him: My Dad Rod Serling but...

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Episode #268: Fred Armisen (Ernie Kovacs Award, VideoFest) show art Episode #268: Fred Armisen (Ernie Kovacs Award, VideoFest)

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast. Today, we are doing something different but  not totally unprecedented. Last year in 2024, we presented a bonus episode, recorded live at the Texas Theater in Dallas, Texas with Ernie Kovacs award winner, Gerald Casale from Devo at VideoFest. This year, we’d like to present this year’s VideoFest’s Ernie Kovacs Award recipient, comedian Fred Armisen. This is just one of the ways we keep the legacy of both Ernie and Edie Adams going and frankly, it’s really a major impetus for this podcast itself. How better to keep...

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Episode #267: Tamar Springer (Philip Springer) show art Episode #267: Tamar Springer (Philip Springer)

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Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to guest Tamar Springer about her composer/songwriter father Philip Springer. Now, unless you are in music publishing or a collector of film soundtracks or possibly a musical academic, the name Philip Springer might not seem like a name you would know. A ha, but if I told you he was the composer & co-writer of the hit Eartha Kitt, Christmas song “Santa Baby” then would you know? Or perhaps you’d know some of his other work which has been sung by everyone from Frank Sinatra to Ella Fitzgerald, from Dusty Springfield to Elvis Presley....

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Episode #266: Ed Eckstine (Billy Eckstine) show art Episode #266: Ed Eckstine (Billy Eckstine)

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Today on another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to Ed Eckstine, son of smooth as silk singer & bandleader Billy Eckstine. Our chat with Ed was funny, educational, occasionally jaw dropping and always engaging. Now, before we even started our chat with Ed, upon his agreeing to be a part of the podcast, we got a list of topics from Ed that he thought we might want to discuss. Effectively, he sent us a cheat sheet that they didn’t get to on his appearance on the Questlove Supreme podcast prior to our chat. Who were we to say no? There were like 60 totally...

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Episode #265: Kat Kramer (Stanley Kramer) show art Episode #265: Kat Kramer (Stanley Kramer)

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Today on another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Katherine Kramer, daughter of producer/director Stanley Kramer. Our chat with Katherine or Kat was both edifying and easy as we had familial connections and we learned a few things in the process. Such as? Well how about what famous actress was she named after, where in the Western United States did her family move to once they left Hollywood and what films made her father a bankable director while he was still producing. We also spoke about some of his films, many of them ‘message’ films such as Guess Who’s...

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Episode #264: Matt Axton (Hoyt Axton) show art Episode #264: Matt Axton (Hoyt Axton)

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Today on another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are speaking to musician Matt Axton about his larger-than-life actor, musician, spokesman and songwriter dad, Hoyt Axton. Now if you grew up in the eighties, you would know Hoyt from Gremlins. If you grew up in the 70s, you’d know him as the songwriter to the smash hit “Joy To The World” made popular by Three Dog Night and in the sixties perhaps the hit show Bonanza. As Matt explains to us, his dad was many things to many people, a shit kicking psychedelic cowboy, a Busch beer pitchman and even Mogwai’s dad. Everyone...

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Today on another encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to three prior guests of the podcast who are talking to us in the boldest experiment in Rarified Heir Podcast history! How so? We are talking to them all at once. Something we had never done before. But don’t fret, Carnie Wilson, Jenny Brill and Shawn Kay have been friends for quite a long time and, in fact, they know each other and host Josh Mills from as far back as elementary school. There are laughs and some tears on this one.

Since the time of this recording, sadly we have lost two of the celebrity parents of our guests, as both Mitzi McCall, mother of Jenny Brill and Brian Wilson, father of Carnie Wilson have both passed away as of this encore episode. While it puts things in perspective rather quickly, it also helps us to realize that the entire point of this podcast is to make sure that in this fast paced world, we don’t forget the names and stories about some of the most beloved entertainers of the 20th century.

And with that in mind, this episode is a rollicking one, a bit experimental as we said but also fast paced, filled with childhood memories and what it was like not only growing up the child of a celebrity but also with friends whose parents were also celebrities. We get into some ridiculous tales about the Oakwood school where they all met, insane stories about album jackets as modes of transportation and a nostalgic trip down a very 1970s memory lane. Which begs the question, just how did the children of Mitzi McCall, Charlie Brill, John Kay, Brian Wilson and Marilyn Wilson get along? In a word? Famously. Take a listen.