loader from loading.io

Lead It Like Lasso with Marnie Stockman & Nick Coniglio

The RebelRebel Podcast

Release Date: 11/05/2025

Life Lessons from the Arctic with Heather Thorkelson show art Life Lessons from the Arctic with Heather Thorkelson

The RebelRebel Podcast

“You don’t need to know how—just know that it lights you up.” What happens when a creative rebel says yes to a fluke invite to Antarctica? In this episode, I talk with Heather Thorkelson about wild pivots, polar travel, and building a business with impact. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. In this episode, Michael Dargie speaks with Heather Thorkelson—entrepreneur, polar expedition guide, and founder of PolarTracks Expeditions. From growing up as a third-culture kid to building a pair of polar travel...

info_outline
Keep the Cocktail, Fix The Brand With Shawn Soole show art Keep the Cocktail, Fix The Brand With Shawn Soole

The RebelRebel Podcast

“I help people stop working in their business and start working on their business.” In this episode, Michael Dargie chats with hospitality veteran and industry provocateur Shawn Soole. With a career spanning nearly three decades, Shawn has seen—and done—it all. From washing dishes at 13 in Australia to building bar programs, authoring books, consulting internationally, and running a podcast, his journey is nothing short of relentless. And that’s exactly how he likes it. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. Their...

info_outline
Life as an Independent Vet with Dr. Beth show art Life as an Independent Vet with Dr. Beth

The RebelRebel Podcast

“Create the things you wish existed.” What happens when a little girl obsessed with animals grows up, faces down fear, and builds a vet clinic on a dream? In this episode, Beth Barrett shares her story of grit, independence, and what it really means to live in alignment with your values. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. In This Episode In this episode, Michael Dargie talks with veterinarian and entrepreneur Beth Barrett about her decades-long career, her passion for animals, and the power of doing hard things. From...

info_outline
Gen X Women Who Kick Ass with Oonagh Duncan show art Gen X Women Who Kick Ass with Oonagh Duncan

The RebelRebel Podcast

“Weight loss isn’t controversial in science, only on social media.” What happens when a former smoker and self-described non-athlete turns into one of Canada’s most refreshing voices in fitness and habit formation? In this episode, I talk with Oonagh Duncan about Gen X women, body neutrality, the power of pleasure, and her dream of fronting an 80s hair band at brunch. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. In This Episode In this episode, Michael Dargie talks with Oonagh Duncan—fitness coach, author of Healthy as...

info_outline
Copywriting Without Borders with Rachel Allen show art Copywriting Without Borders with Rachel Allen

The RebelRebel Podcast

“It’s never going to be as hard as you think it is.” What happens when a theater nerd from Appalachia drops out of college, moves to Hong Kong with $200, and discovers people will actually pay her to write? In this episode, I talk with Rachel Allen about words, travel, and building a business from scratch. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. In This Episode In this episode, Michael Dargie talks with Rachel Allen, a writer, fractional CMO, and founder of Bolt from the Blue Copywriting. Rachel’s path has been...

info_outline
Seven Startups and a Standup with Mary McCorvey show art Seven Startups and a Standup with Mary McCorvey

The RebelRebel Podcast

“You have a finite number of heartbeats. There are infinite possibilities.” What happens when a seven-time founder who once built a company around landing on the moon steps into the arena as herself? In this episode, I talk with Mary McCorvey about moonshots, stand-up comedy, and living life on your own terms. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. In This Episode In this episode, Michael Dargie speaks with Mary McCorvey, a seven-time founder, Army veteran, broadcaster, author, and stand-up comic based in Philadelphia....

info_outline
Lessons From A Go-Giver with Bob Burg show art Lessons From A Go-Giver with Bob Burg

The RebelRebel Podcast

“Kindness is never wasted—it expands into greatness.” What happens when a broadcaster-turned-salesman discovers that giving is the fastest path to success? In this episode, I talk with Bob Burg, co-author of The Go-Giver, about kindness, influence, and building a life around service. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. In This Episode In this episode, Michael Dargie speaks with Bob Burg, speaker, author, and co-creator of the international bestseller The Go-Giver. Known for its simple but powerful message—that...

info_outline
The Call Center Rebel with Richard Blank show art The Call Center Rebel with Richard Blank

The RebelRebel Podcast

““You shouldn’t use words to burn. They should be for light and for warmth.” Richard has spent the last 19 years running a near-shore bilingual contact center that thrives on empathy, communication, and human connection in an era dominated by automation. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. In this episode, Michael Dargie sits down with Richard Blank, CEO of Costa Rica’s Call Center. Richard has spent the last 19 years running a near-shore bilingual contact center that thrives on empathy, communication, and human...

info_outline
From Teeth to Tech with Brandon Sherwood show art From Teeth to Tech with Brandon Sherwood

The RebelRebel Podcast

“Entrepreneurship is the craziest, scariest roller coaster ever.” What happens when selling RVs leads to buying dental scrap, melting it down for precious metals, and then launching a startup with a mission to bless lives? In this episode, I talk with Brandon Sherwood about entrepreneurship, family, and why it’s just not that serious. This episode is sponsored by my new book , helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world. In This Episode In this episode, Michael Dargie chats with Brandon Sherwood, an entrepreneur from Heber City, Utah, whose path has been anything but...

info_outline
The Sound of Success with Jodi Krangle show art The Sound of Success with Jodi Krangle

The RebelRebel Podcast

In this episode, Michael Dargie sits down with Jodi Krangle, a professional voice actor, singer, and host of the Audio Branding podcast. Based just north of Toronto, Jodi has been a full-time voice actor for nearly two decades, lending her voice to clients around the world while exploring the psychology and power of sound . Jodi shares how her journey started in the mid-90s when she volunteered at CNIB, recording articles to reel-to-reel tape for the visually impaired. Years later, after burning out in SEO and internet marketing, she returned to the idea of voice acting and built a thriving...

info_outline
 
More Episodes

“Question everything and see it from every perspective.”

What happens when a high school math teacher and a computer programmer leave the corporate grind, write books inspired by Ted Lasso, and create a personal leadership app? In this episode, I talk with Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio about building businesses, books, and better leaders.


This episode is sponsored by my new book BRANDJITSU, helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world.

In This Episode

In this episode, Michael Dargie welcomes co-authors, entrepreneurs, and leadership coaches Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio. From opposite ends of the U.S.—Marnie on Maryland’s Eastern Shore and Nick in Georgia—they’ve joined forces to write Lead It Like Lasso and The Business of You, books that blend leadership frameworks with pop culture touchstones to help people live and lead authentically .

Marnie began her career as a high school math teacher before moving into administration and customer success in ed tech. Nick started as a computer programmer, eventually moving into leadership roles where he learned firsthand what ineffective and authentic leadership looked like. Their paths converged at a company where values didn’t match reality, and from that misalignment came the spark to build something of their own .

Together, they’ve built Scaled, authored award-winning books, and are now developing Blue, an app that helps young people build their personal leadership brand. They share stories of book festivals, awkward signings, and creative ways to connect with readers, like Marnie signing books as bathroom passes. They also talk about resilience in business, why storytelling is 22 times more effective than facts, and how job seekers can stand out in a sea of sameness .

Outside their professional world, Marnie knits and walks like it’s an Olympic sport, while Nick swears by stretching and a daily dose of Wordle. They swap stories about crabs in Maryland, golf in Georgia, and how authenticity, curiosity, and humour fuel both their partnership and their writing .

Their advice to “rebels in waiting” is simple but powerful: find your people, question everything, and keep rewriting your own story.

Quoteable Quotes

“Leadership is life—it doesn’t just happen in the boardroom.” — Marnie Stockman

“Question everything and see it from every perspective.” — Nick Coniglio

“Find your Diamond Dogs—your personal board of advisors.” — Marnie Stockman

“The game is reviews. That is the game.” — Michael Dargie

Episode Highlights

Lead It Like Lasso | Why Ted Lasso became the perfect framework for leadership.

The Business of You | Helping young people build a brand that stands out.

Math Meets Code | How a teacher and programmer became co-authors.

Misaligned Values | Leaving corporate life to build something better.

Diamond Dogs | The importance of personal advisors and support networks.

Leadership is Life | Why it matters in classrooms, living rooms, and boardrooms.

Book Signing Stories | Bathroom passes, LA Times Book Fest, and awkward empty tables.

Stretching & Knitting | Daily practices that fuel creativity and wellbeing.

Job Hunting Truths | Why resumes aren’t enough and storytelling matters.

Advice to Rebels | Be authentic, be curious, and keep building community.

Links From Episode

Lead It Like Lasso ( https://www.leaditlikelasso.com/)

Facebook: (https://www.facebook.com/leaditlikelasso)

LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/lead-it-like-lasso)

Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/leaditlikelasso/)

Twitter (https://twitter.com/leaditlikelasso)

TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@leaditlikelasso)


Get Your Copy of Michael's Book:
"BrandJitsu™: Move Your Brand From 'Meh' To Memorable"
Indigo | Barnes & Noble | MichaelDargie.com